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Radar sites were nerfed after patch, Why?
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Ooda
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#61 - 2011-12-18 21:05:54 UTC
Come on..

No one will ever be able to proof a bug with exploration loot-distribution through hard evidence. It's funny to see smart and well known forum people transforming into trolls everytime somebody takes his chance to complain about.

Keep on going, free comedy everytime :D
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#62 - 2011-12-18 21:27:13 UTC
Ooda wrote:
Come on..

No one will ever be able to proof a bug with exploration loot-distribution through hard evidence. It's funny to see smart and well known forum people transforming into trolls everytime somebody takes his chance to complain about.

Keep on going, free comedy everytime :D



So every time you hit a dry spell, run to the forums?

Also it'd be quite easy to at the very least logically assess the situation. Prices for each loot drop are pretty stable. If we see a sudden spike in certain modules, we can be sure that supply is suddenly dropping (or demand, but for arguments sake, lets say supply) thus possibly indicating a reduction in drops.

The inverse of this has already been proven true. The implementation of the Guristas DED 3/10 meant the Pithi A-type small shield booster could now drop in high sec, whereas before it was a rare drop from the final part of an escalation chain that ends in low sec (this meant finding the site, getting the initial escalation, getting full escalation to the final site, and then getting the lucky drop...lots of chances to not get the module, thus very rare). Now that its available from a single site in high sec (and pretty easy to find) supply has increased dramatically, the market has been saturated and prices have plummeted. Point being, drop increase = price decrease, drop decrease = price increase, assuming demand stays about the same.

But its easier to run to the forums and cry about doing 4 DED 4/10s and only getting overseer effects.
Ooda
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2011-12-18 21:59:42 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Ooda wrote:
Come on..

No one will ever be able to proof a bug with exploration loot-distribution through hard evidence. It's funny to see smart and well known forum people transforming into trolls everytime somebody takes his chance to complain about.

Keep on going, free comedy everytime :D



So every time you hit a dry spell, run to the forums?


congratz, you completely missed the point :)
Complaining players can indicate a problem, hard evidence is not needed. Helpful, but not needed.

I'm not saying this is bug or not, I just think its funny to ask for something no one will ever be able to provide ;)
Orlacc
#64 - 2011-12-19 15:36:05 UTC
I had my best radar site day in two years yesterday....100m in two hours.

So if there was a change I like it.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Zenedia
Doomheim
#65 - 2011-12-19 19:20:37 UTC
I've gone for a while in WHs having my RADAR cans be totally empty. Other times I would run 2 and get fistfuls of Caldari crypters. Your sample of 4 is so pathetically small that you are either a fantastic troll, in which case I give you a 3/10 since I replied, or you are ignorant about your "statistics won't change" based on a sample size of 4.

You do understand that statistics are a way to trend a set of data that by it's very nature CANNOT be trended by picking a representative sample and examining the results? Your sample of 4, in the grand scheme of EVERY POSSIBLE RADAR site in the game that has been done to date, is beyond worthless to determine any sort of trend.

TL:DR -All hail the RNGod. Run 20X your "sample" size then talk about trends and things being broken.
Amelia Shortcake
Doomheim
#66 - 2011-12-19 20:24:34 UTC
Earth Keeper wrote:
4 was enough.


Do you play EVE like you live your life? How is welfare treating you?
Miss President
SOLARIS ASTERIUS
#67 - 2012-01-03 04:34:50 UTC
after running lots and lots of radar sites in a couple of years, today I ran my first radar after the new expansion, this site dropped 0 dycriptors, and about 16 datacores, other items were worthless components for interfaces that didn't fit into the ship's cargo.

never had this before, even in 0.0. Don't give me exploration is based on chance crap, radar and mag always guaranteed a minimum income.

What happened CCP?
Ryuce
#68 - 2012-01-03 08:45:37 UTC
Miss President wrote:
after running lots and lots of radar sites in a couple of years, today I ran my first radar after the new expansion, this site dropped 0 dycriptors, and about 16 datacores, other items were worthless components for interfaces that didn't fit into the ship's cargo.

never had this before, even in 0.0. Don't give me exploration is based on chance crap, radar and mag always guaranteed a minimum income.

What happened CCP?


0/10
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#69 - 2012-01-03 16:54:59 UTC
Miss President wrote:
after running lots and lots of radar sites in a couple of years, today I ran my first radar after the new expansion, this site dropped 0 dycriptors, and about 16 datacores, other items were worthless components for interfaces that didn't fit into the ship's cargo.

never had this before, even in 0.0. Don't give me exploration is based on chance crap, radar and mag always guaranteed a minimum income.

What happened CCP?



Bad troll.

Make your own thread next time.
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#70 - 2012-01-03 17:55:09 UTC
I love when the words "guaranteed" and "minimum" come up in reference to a random table with "nothing" as an option. But by all means people, quit exploring, it's both unprofitable and most likely a sin.
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#71 - 2012-01-03 19:44:56 UTC
Making obligatory appearance in an 'exploration is broken' thread. Pirate

I'm not actually sure If I've appeared before or not, as bad necro is bad and I don't feel like checking. Cool

Also, if loot isn't dropping for you, you aren't rubbing your lucky charm correctly, and need more practice. Roll

"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes it makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears
SexTrader
LOst BrotherhoOd
#72 - 2012-01-03 20:09:23 UTC
Kilrayn wrote:


Also, if loot isn't dropping for you, you aren't rubbing your lucky charm correctly, and need more practice. Roll



Lets try to keep our 'privates' out of this conversation, shall we?
CeneUJiti
Doomheim
#73 - 2012-01-03 22:07:42 UTC
Had some luck and just wondering how much of it.

Whats a average loot of a Serpentsi 5/10 and what is "sweet" and what is "jawdrop"?
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#74 - 2012-01-05 21:29:20 UTC
Earth Keeper wrote:
After patch were done 4 radar open space sites in Angel area. The drop from all 4 of them was pathetic Ugh and 3/4 of cans were totally empty Evil . Comparing to the pre-patch drop, it was almost close to the usual drop from one anomaly, as at least one item was found in can.
Why to nerf the sites that were non profitable pre-patch and now became a total FAIL!
Where is the result of your significant work you have done on "improving and increasing the drop"?
Better rollback to where it was pre-patch..


Iv heard the same subject pop up atleast every 2 days, before the patch, long before. the same answer to them all was "Chances" its all about random chances.
Banible
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2012-01-07 14:16:08 UTC
Decreasing drop rates is the first sign of a game going down, and they did it...
Site spawn rates, site drop rates and DED complexes faction loot...
If you didnt noticed its because exploring is not your main income activity in game...


Cheers QQers
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#76 - 2012-01-07 16:06:53 UTC
Banible wrote:
Decreasing drop rates is the first sign of a game going down, and they did it...
Site spawn rates, site drop rates and DED complexes faction loot...
If you didnt noticed its because exploring is not your main income activity in game...


Cheers QQers

Take your baseless and moronic assertions elsewhere.

Cheers.

"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes it makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears
XXSketchxx
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#77 - 2012-01-07 16:12:48 UTC
Banible wrote:
Decreasing drop rates is the first sign of a game going down, and they did it...
Site spawn rates, site drop rates and DED complexes faction loot...
If you didnt noticed its because exploring is not your main income activity in game...


Cheers QQers


So was it a traumatic incident that caused the brain damage resulting in your stupidity or were you just born that way?
Flakey Foont
#78 - 2012-01-07 16:40:10 UTC
XXSketchxx wrote:
Banible wrote:
Decreasing drop rates is the first sign of a game going down, and they did it...
Site spawn rates, site drop rates and DED complexes faction loot...
If you didnt noticed its because exploring is not your main income activity in game...


Cheers QQers


So was it a traumatic incident that caused the brain damage resulting in your stupidity or were you just born that way?


God I hate that avatar Sal.....
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#79 - 2012-01-07 16:44:05 UTC
Flakey Foont wrote:
XXSketchxx wrote:
Banible wrote:
Decreasing drop rates is the first sign of a game going down, and they did it...
Site spawn rates, site drop rates and DED complexes faction loot...
If you didnt noticed its because exploring is not your main income activity in game...


Cheers QQers


So was it a traumatic incident that caused the brain damage resulting in your stupidity or were you just born that way?


God I hate that avatar Sal.....

I'd assume Sal's banned atm. Only logical explination. Cool

"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes it makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears
Heun zero
MAYHEM BOYZ
#80 - 2012-01-07 17:01:24 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Sir Livingston wrote:


nerf, buff, nerf, buff, nerf, buff...who cares what they did. Adapt and survive.


Hopefully Darwinism will take care of the OP...



we can give him the darwin award when he reprocesses his char