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What to do with ISK in Highsec?

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#21 - 2016-01-11 06:41:15 UTC
Everything you've ever done in EVE is PVP, even if you've never shot or been shot by another player. Get this 'I don't PVP' mindset out of your mind.

If you mine and sell the ore, you are screwing over every other miner in the region and helping nullsec supercapital builders and highsec industrialists that consume masses of ore.

If you run missions for Sisters of EVE, you are screwing over every other Sisters LP farmer by lowering the cost of Sisters launchers/probes, and helping wormhole PVPers.

Etc etc.


ISK creates opportunities to make your own fun.

Got three billion to throw away? Train into a Marauder and run a one-person gatecamp in lowsec. (You can get some incredible kills doing this).

Got twenty million to throw away? Fit a gank Vexor, and ruin some hauler's day by popping their Iteron.

Got a quarter trillion to burn? Pick a nullsec coalition you don't like (maybe they podded you when you were a newb) and offer a public bounty: 50 billion ISK to any director that defects with extreme prejudice (i.e. stealing or burning everything they can on the way out). Pay up to five people.

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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#22 - 2016-01-11 08:21:24 UTC
Vishanka wrote:
I never really encountered PvP, if I did there were other people around me that did all the work......

a glance at your killboard suggests different.

you've PvP'd and you've PvP'd quite successfully thus far, believe it or don't.

Vishanka wrote:
I don't think I will be a decent PvP pilot.


this is where I encourage you to broaden your horizons. have a go and try it out, maybe you'll surprise yourself.

first, read THIS and, especially, THIS.

Take some of this dank ISK you've been socking away and buy yourself a dozen T1 Frigates. Atrons, Merlins, Tristans those kinds of fun toys that shouldn't run more than ISK 5m'ish fully fit. Head for faction warfare space and derp around in Novice sites. A solid part of EVE PvP (or the 'hard work' as you put it) is knowing what fights to take, and what fights to run a mile from. I've welped a few solo Dramiels in the last few weeks, one of which was a salutatory lesson on staying the hell out of web range of Hookbills.

Otherwise, if PvE is more your thing, and if you have hacking skills, maybe jump into an Astero or Helios and head down the rabbit warren of J-Space. Data and Relic sites aplenty can be found.

All of these require only one thing: ditch the apron-strings of CONCORD, get the hell out of HiSec.

New Eden is vast. Get out there and explore it.

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Ginnie
Doomheim
#23 - 2016-01-11 16:26:13 UTC
I am also a typical High Sec carebear. I run level 4 missions in a BS and do some High Sec exploring in a Cruiser. I recently started some Low Sec exploring in a T1 Frigate with all T1 equip. So far, so good.

I wasted a lot of time over the years training in things that I really didn't need or ever use. I'm on a much better path now, but it is still going to take a while for me to get to all the skills I really want! Long-ish term, I would like to fly a Guardian and run incursions.

If you are just loaded on ISK and looking to burn some of it, you could update your equip to factions. Replace those Heat Sink IIs with Imperial Navy Heat Sinks...you know those kinds of things.

It sounds plausible enough tonight, but wait until tomorrow. Wait for the common sense of the morning.

Rykker Bow
Center for Advanced Studies
#24 - 2016-01-11 16:45:04 UTC
Lol... use that isk to make MORE isk of course! Smile

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2016-01-12 03:09:46 UTC
I'm kind of corious how much isk OP is talking about. Doing some boring stuff won't require much of the isk to spend. You could simply invest your isk into legit bonds or corp's shares or go to Jita and try your luck with
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Republic Fleet Firetail @ 666,666 isk or 66,666,666 isk game.

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Thorian Baalnorn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2016-01-12 15:56:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Thorian Baalnorn
A lot of people people are saying PVP, but honestly their is a lot more to do in eve than pvp. You were quite vague with what you do and what you consider to be a large amount of isk. You might consider 100 bil isk to be a large amount and that is a pretty good amount, or you might consider 1 bil isk to be a large amount which is still below what i would consider the poverty line in eve.

Pvp is part of the game and happens even in high sec. You are actually safer in Null sov space than you are in high sec most of the time. as all the shady "pvpers" hang out in hisec warring with carebears or trying to create situations in which they can get a kill on someone that doesnt fight back or fights very little. Like the chick i got in my local hisec area that likes running around stealing peoples salvage trying to bait them into attacking her.

In Null someone is either friend or foe. I would explore different parts of the game. Do different things, it doesnt have to be pvp, but dont let the prospect of pvp stop you from getting out of the kiddie pool and seeing what is out there.You will likely find once you get out of highsec and what ever "career" you are doing now and expand your horizons that your previous eve life was very limited and quite boring.

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Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2016-01-14 04:17:40 UTC
Thorian makes a good point here. Much of Null (even someone's sov) is nearly abandoned and honestly easier to avoid fights in than high sec.
People in null will obviously be threats, rather than having to worry about which of the 80 people in high sec local might be gankers or their alts.

Fit up a blingy Tengu, mobile depot, and just go lose yourself in W-space. You can move around cloaked/nullified, then probe down a WH, then refit to...hack sites, kill Sleepers, kill other players, etc before packing up and moving on to do it again in another WH.


Set up camp in somebody's sov. Take some siphons and something with a cloak. Rob a null sec corp blind. Just for giggles top it off by killing one of their ratters when he gets complacent.


Set up a rent-a-ganker service in high sec. Bathe in the blood of care bears.


Check out Incursions- it's PvE but high end fleet PvE which is at least social.


Go help newbs. Hang around newb channels, mission channels, etc. Offer to help people complete tough missions or story arcs. Give them a decently fit ship. Maybe just fly a logi yourself and keep the new guy alive but let him do the killing of the NPCs.


Become a scammer. Takes money to make money, and you can bankroll several scams at once if you wanted.
Pix Severus
Empty You
#28 - 2016-01-14 04:55:34 UTC
Liquid ISK is wasted ISK. If you absolutely must avoid PvP combat, then I'd suggest investing your ISK into in-game items. Those items may increase in price over time, giving you interest.

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Pookoko
Sigma Sagittarii Inc.
#29 - 2016-01-14 15:48:34 UTC
If you are not interested in shooting, it's also quite fun to build. It scales very well with your capital, so the more capital you have the more you can expand your manufacturing operations. You can keep it as simple/focused or as diverse and expansive as you'd like. I mostly made my isk through trading years ago, then there was a phase I got into manufacturing big time, spending most of my in and out of game time planning and managing and forecasting and analysing and such. It is a different kind of challenge and fun compared to just trading on its own, and in the process you gain insight into eve's economy that goes deeper than pure buying/selling.

You open your eyes to the 'process' of how an item is put on market, from a miner shooting rocks to selling ores to traders who sell them at hubs and how the moon materials come from null to Jita and spread to all corners of new eden with people doing reactions and building components and inventions and the end product being a T2 ship which gets destroyed and salvaged which feeds into T2 rig productions, etc, etc, etc. It goes on and on and on.

What to make, where to make, where to sell, how to get the resources, all these things are also often deeply related with what's happening with wars and politics and pvps and ganks and mission runners and all, not to mention the long term directions of how the game itself is evolving. If you haven't tried already, I definitely recommend reading up on and doing some researches on the science and industry front.
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