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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#21 - 2016-01-05 15:34:34 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Carriers are not allowed in high-sec, and the LP reward for high-sec L5 agents would be substantially less than low-sec L5 agents. Under ideal conditions you'd still be looking at less than 200m ISK/hour.



The Op was asking about pirate level Vs not hisec Vs.


Honestly both are equally bad ideas. Lv5s are old outdated PvE with old AI and outdated gameplay that neither brings any new content nor mechanics to the game.


The AI for L5s is the same you would see any other mission.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#22 - 2016-01-06 22:49:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Estella Osoka wrote:
No, it wouldn't. Marauders can run L5s just fine, but might take a little bit more time than a carrier. Might have to add on another 5 minutes. A RHML Golem does them just fine using 2x XL-Ancillary shield boosters. The LP reward for doing just 2 L5s easily outweighs blitzing L4s in an hours time.

Before you go making assumptions about L5 payouts, I suggest you go run some.

Part of the reason L5 payouts are so large is because they get a bump for being in low-sec. L5 payouts would easily be 30-40k less from high-sec agents. I have run L5 missions, although as stated I can make far more ISK safely in high-sec which affords me time to interact with the forums, etc.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#23 - 2016-01-08 20:04:00 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
No, it wouldn't. Marauders can run L5s just fine, but might take a little bit more time than a carrier. Might have to add on another 5 minutes. A RHML Golem does them just fine using 2x XL-Ancillary shield boosters. The LP reward for doing just 2 L5s easily outweighs blitzing L4s in an hours time.

Before you go making assumptions about L5 payouts, I suggest you go run some.

Part of the reason L5 payouts are so large is because they get a bump for being in low-sec. L5 payouts would easily be 30-40k less from high-sec agents. I have run L5 missions, although as stated I can make far more ISK safely in high-sec which affords me time to interact with the forums, etc.


All missions get a bump in reward the lower the security status, but it isn't double the amount of LP. It is based on the following formula: Actual LP Reward = Base LP Reward x (1 + (0.10 x (Level of Connection Skill)))

And there is no definitive formula for calculating ISK payout that has been released from CCP. I have seen claims that it goes up by 10% per security level the lower the security of space.

Take into account the bounty payout for the mission rats does not change the lower security you go.

So if you did move them to hisec, they would still payout significantly more than a standard L4. I would guess the LP payout would average around 50k, which is a hell of a lot more than even some burner missions.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#24 - 2016-01-09 17:38:19 UTC
Yes, that was my point - the high-sec payout will be in the 50-60k LP range and not in the low-sec 80-100k+ range. Empire agents have an abysmal ISK/LP conversion (<800 ISK/LP) compared to SoE agents (2000+ ISK/LP), so your typical Burner mission will yield in excess of 35-million ISK - around the same yield as a potential high-sec L5. In any event it's likely a moot point since I seriously doubt CCP will ever entertain the idea.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#25 - 2016-01-09 19:30:22 UTC
50-60k lp per mission in highsec hahahaha

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#26 - 2016-01-09 19:38:33 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
50-60k lp per mission in highsec hahahaha

That's worth maybe 35-40m ISK converted. I don't even know why I respond to idiotic comments like this, because it's all too apparent they're not grounded in any kind of experience actually running missions.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#27 - 2016-01-09 19:43:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
50-60k lp per mission in highsec hahahaha

That's worth maybe 35-40m ISK converted. I don't even know why I respond to idiotic comments like this, because it's all too apparent they're not grounded in any kind of experience actually running missions.


i run lvl 5's in lowsec...do you?

next we will see guides from min/maxers like yourself "800mil an hour blitzing lvl 5's in highsec", grats you wrecked one of the only real incomes in lowsec that fund all the big fights that destroys isk while highseccers just pad there wallets

35-40mil isk in lp, tags about 30mil, loot and salvage if you want, blitzing them afk in highsec, priceless

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
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