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PI Profitability

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2016-01-21 04:00:53 UTC
Generally losec single planet P2 PI with a single account (18 planets) can return pretty much a PLEX a month leaving any ISK you make elsewhere spare to spend. A bit less if you only move the extractors every 4 days.
Loutro Fift
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#22 - 2016-01-22 05:33:28 UTC
I have two alts doing nothing but PI in a somewhat sleepy Null Sec system. I am doing enriched uranium, the price of which has increased by about 1,500 isk per unit since december.

I have two alts doing 11 planets. Both in the same system at the same station. Only one of the planets is not in that system. This makes it really easy to move materials around and check customs offices. I am two jumps from lo sec, where I have a large industrial parked. I don't like flying a big slow boat in null, so the two fly out to the lo sec station together. I drop off my loot from ratting at this station and they take both the material and loot to a hub.

If I run to a hub once a week, with prices at about 11,500: i can gross 320,000,000 a week. My taxes are about 4% per station, but I have customs office trained to level 4. I get about 80% of that, the balance the alts use for taxes, and what not.

It took me months to get a PI setup that works for me. I tried Hi and lo sec which just didn't pay off...couldn't keep the AF planets full.
I got lucky finding a system that had all the planets I need. Now I got the routine down and it is rather easy money

Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
#23 - 2016-01-22 11:55:46 UTC
Quote:
If I run to a hub once a week, with prices at about 11,500: i can gross 320,000,000 a week.

How long is the cycle time on your extractors?
Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining
#24 - 2016-01-22 18:42:54 UTC
Loutro Fift wrote:
My taxes are about 4% per station, but I have customs office trained to level 4. I get about 80% of that, the balance the alts use for taxes, and what not.


I thought the customs office skill only affected taxes in high sec offices?
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#25 - 2016-01-22 18:52:22 UTC
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
Loutro Fift wrote:
My taxes are about 4% per station, but I have customs office trained to level 4. I get about 80% of that, the balance the alts use for taxes, and what not.


I thought the customs office skill only affected taxes in high sec offices?


Correct. Well, it might work on whatever interbus offices are left, as well. It has no effect on POCOs outside of high-sec.

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Barron Hammerstrike
Medusa Nova Mining And Trade
#26 - 2016-02-01 20:32:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Barron Hammerstrike
I've been doing PI since it launched and find it to be rewarding. My tips would be the following:

-Max your skills

-produce frequently in demand items

-Set up in low, null, or WH

-set you extractors for extended periods e.g. 9 days to max

-Choose planets in an area you are comfortable making X amount of jumps to and from whatever trade hub you frequent (preferably choosing planets in no more than two neighboring systems)

-Do other stuff while your goods accumulate and scoop them maybe once or twice a month.


Pro tip: you don't have to attach your command center to anything.
Billybop Bunnigans
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2016-02-03 19:42:47 UTC
I have 2 toons both to level 5 in the five skills in Planetary Interaction. However one toon has much better definition of the resources on a planet. He can see white blobs and such where the second toon can only make out red and orange. Is there something I am missing between the two, skill wise or otherwise?
Billybop Bunnigans
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2016-02-03 19:45:13 UTC
Never mind, I figured out the slider bar at the top of the scan screen can manipulate the colors.
Plague Dren
Wombolshevik SSR
#29 - 2016-02-08 12:02:43 UTC
I just wanted to note, that i make around 1.2 Bil with PI each month.

- With one character
- Without extraction
- In Highsec
- Around 1-2 hours work all 2 days

So just to give an answer to Taunrich Kaufmann. If you need any tips, contact me.

PI for a living is absolutely underrated.

Build safe! o7
GulGarak
Doomheim
#30 - 2016-02-13 23:26:40 UTC
Plague Dren wrote:
I just wanted to note, that i make around 1.2 Bil with PI each month.

- With one character
- Without extraction
- In Highsec
- Around 1-2 hours work all 2 days

So just to give an answer to Taunrich Kaufmann. If you need any tips, contact me.

PI for a living is absolutely underrated.

Build safe! o7



Well now I'm curieus. How do you do that?
The only way I can think of is to manufactor p2+ items, maybe even up to p4?
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#31 - 2016-02-15 08:30:27 UTC
GulGarak wrote:
Plague Dren wrote:
I just wanted to note, that i make around 1.2 Bil with PI each month.

- With one character
- Without extraction
- In Highsec
- Around 1-2 hours work all 2 days

So just to give an answer to Taunrich Kaufmann. If you need any tips, contact me.

PI for a living is absolutely underrated.

Build safe! o7



Well now I'm curieus. How do you do that?
The only way I can think of is to manufactor p2+ items, maybe even up to p4?


yup, just manufacture no extractors and probably owns the POCO (can you own a POCO in hisec?)

for me, im lazy, means i let my planets idle up to 3 days/week, but i can still do about 700m/month in 1 PI character. im just manufacturing too, in lowsec. we own the POCO so 0% tax.

i actually believe PI is imba for it's passiveness. the only frustration is setting up your planets (manufacturing) in the beginning, but after that, your good for life.

Just Add Water

Kimimaro Yoga
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2016-02-15 11:24:04 UTC
GulGarak wrote:
Plague Dren wrote:
I just wanted to note, that i make around 1.2 Bil with PI each month.

- With one character
- Without extraction
- In Highsec
- Around 1-2 hours work all 2 days

So just to give an answer to Taunrich Kaufmann. If you need any tips, contact me.

PI for a living is absolutely underrated.

Build safe! o7



Well now I'm curieus. How do you do that?
The only way I can think of is to manufactor p2+ items, maybe even up to p4?


Yes, pure factory worlds making P2-P3-P4 can make a lot of money. 1.2bil a month sounds quite low, actually. Here's the problem though, the meaningful part of making that money isn't doing PI. It's tending ten to twenty buy orders in Jita with a stockpile in excess of a billion isk. Playing the 0.01 isk game to get your buy orders filled and output sold. The PI part consists of dumping a pile of stuff into a factory planet then coming back a couple days later to collect more valuable stuff. Not that setting up the factories is trivial, but once you've got it down you still have to do all that market work whenever you want to make any money.

If you try and skip the part where you tend buy orders and just buy what's selling, it's entirely possible to lose money. Rather likely you won't make much. A spreadsheet that pulls data from someplace like eve-central is nearly required if you want to compete well. The PI part, not really important compared to the playing with numbers part.

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#33 - 2016-02-16 01:07:39 UTC
Kimimaro Yoga wrote:
Here's the problem though, the meaningful part of making that money isn't doing PI. It's tending ten to twenty buy orders in Jita with a stockpile in excess of a billion isk. Playing the 0.01 isk game to get your buy orders filled and output sold.


TBH, this is rarely necessary, and even less so of late with PI goods being as volatile as they've been. If you don't need to free your money up immediately, throw it on the market and leave it.

If you DO need to free your money up immediately, you've probably invested too large a percentage of your capital into too few items (or you're just spacepoor).

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Nicola Romanoff
Tannhauser C-Beam
#34 - 2016-02-19 15:49:37 UTC
Zduhac Aldent wrote:
I will start it like this,your comment is idiotic i make 1bil a month per char,with 10 min a day so that is 300min a month and that is 5hr,you say mining is more profitable explain me where is that place where you can mine 200mil per hr of invested time? This is just with my idotic low effort,good research setup i could have made it to do pi 1-2 hr a day and earn 10-17 bil depending on market per month but im too lazy.And you say 250 mil is best you can do,and yea did i mention i only have skills lvl 4 so not even perfect skills


I have to say I am interested in your PI :) 1b per month PER CHARACTER? can you confirm that that is correct? I am doing PI in WH space, 6 toons over 2 accounts and 17 planets and I am estimating between 1 and 1.6b a month in total, If you make 1b a month per toon then I beg and pray to bob for your knowledge :)
Gaius Clabbacus
Control Alt Delve
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2016-02-19 16:34:55 UTC
Quote:
I have to say I am interested in your PI :) 1b per month PER CHARACTER? can you confirm that that is correct? I am doing PI in WH space, 6 toons over 2 accounts and 17 planets and I am estimating between 1 and 1.6b a month in total, If you make 1b a month per toon then I beg and pray to bob for your knowledge :)


Not sure what you are doing, but I get about 100m/character/week (6 planets each) in not-too-great nullsec doing simple extraction to P2 (after paying POCO tax).. Setup inspired by http://vonkeigai.blogspot.com/2013/09/notes-on-pi.html and running 3 day cycles on my extractors. Once a week spend some time hauling between planets and dumping P2 in station. Decent ISK for the effort I'm putting into it.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#36 - 2016-02-19 17:04:56 UTC
Nicola Romanoff wrote:
Zduhac Aldent wrote:
I will start it like this,your comment is idiotic i make 1bil a month per char,with 10 min a day so that is 300min a month and that is 5hr,you say mining is more profitable explain me where is that place where you can mine 200mil per hr of invested time? This is just with my idotic low effort,good research setup i could have made it to do pi 1-2 hr a day and earn 10-17 bil depending on market per month but im too lazy.And you say 250 mil is best you can do,and yea did i mention i only have skills lvl 4 so not even perfect skills


I have to say I am interested in your PI :) 1b per month PER CHARACTER? can you confirm that that is correct? I am doing PI in WH space, 6 toons over 2 accounts and 17 planets and I am estimating between 1 and 1.6b a month in total, If you make 1b a month per toon then I beg and pray to bob for your knowledge :)


It's quite achievable with no-tax pure factory setups. I'd call that fairly low, even.

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