Science & Industry

I've started my first PI set-up today with the goal of having some solid, sustainable income established in the near future.
Out of interest, how many of you guys make decent ISK through PI and what kind of products have you found profitable?

Thanks for the info :) I'm one of the weird ones that enjoys mining and PI lol, and 250mil p/m sounds okay for the effort required. Thanks for the tip on the fast selling products, I'll look into them.

Well, this is a tricky thing, because I find PI very profitable, to the tune of 4-6 billion a month per character. It's pretty time intensive, but kind of amusing, if you are the sort who likes playing in markets, etc.

I'm reluctant to reveal my particular corner of the market for obvious reasons, but I will say that it does not involve P0 extraction, and it does involve max skills. Dig around with the various combinations and you'll be surprised what markets are very lucrative indeed. I think people sell PI short because they haven't really looked into it in detail.

I will say that that advice you get of "don't keep doing what you're doing if it feels like a job to earn ISK." fully applies here. You can do better spending the time missioning etc. if that's more fun for you. I have a friend who calls Eve "multiplayer excel" and I have to confess I kind of embody that.

PI is pretty much profitable from the second you finish setting up your planets.


profitability of different products entirely depends upon what kinds of planets you have available locally. you usually want to minimize travel time since it takes a huge toll on your ISK/effort.

What planet are you on? *rimshot*

But yeah like others before me, had to chime in with how off this comment is. I have only set up 4 out of the 6 planets on this account and I make more than that with tier 3 production. With tier 2 yes profits are higher (estimate around 600 mil per month casually), however with higher tier products the volume to haul is less, which means less trips through hostile space where my colonies are.

Well i found this post and logged in just to reply. I love PI and with 18 planets going it takes a little bit of time resetting my extractors, moving the heads to the sweet spots and doing pick ups every 4 or 5 days. But honestly, it has been fun figuring out what makes what, and collecting all of the goodies from the planets that i mine. I have done PI in null and i caution you against it. I have had very good luck with zero tax, but frankly, not a lot of people that i have seen are interested in buying your stuff unless its related to POS material. Even then/now, the future of the POS is uncertain. And then there are the logistics of getting your stuff from null to a solid market. Yes i have used WH's to take my goods to HS, but you never know where the other end of the WH will put you, so there can be a lot more time and stress involved with moving goods thru dangerous territory. But with that, it is very possible and perhaps the best risk/isk ratio out there, especially if the poco tax is cheap.

I do my PI in HS.. Yeah the taxes can be rough, and often down right stupid, but search around and try to get the best deal. Often i have written letters to the holding corps about getting a better deal. Sometimes it works, other times people are just rood as hell.

My set up is pretty cool, out of the 18 planets, few of them mass produce P1 goods to support my P2 worlds. I have several P2 worlds that haul everything to my main who collects everything and filters it all to a single production planet which houses 3 High-Tec facilities and about a dozen advanced facilities. I never buy anything from the market to support my set up, and honestly, if you can find it, it is normally way over priced, or very far away.

I can go on and on about PI, but as an industrialist, its something i like to do along with mining, occasional roaming, exploring, ratting, building caps, blue print research and all kinds of crazy stuff. Bottom line is have fun doing what YOU want to do and dont listen to anyone who tries to tell you how to play EVE.

Hit me up in game and i will be happy to share some pix of my set ups. Also i am always up to learn more about PI so i welcome all comments.

I personally stay away from p0 commodities because they are very low on the profitability scale. Starting out, I would go with p1 or p2 commodities, just to see if you like doing PI. Plus it will let you figure out how much ISK you are actually making, including tax rates, etc. Once you are comfortable with PI, you can start calculating what your income / expense ratio would be to produce p3 and p4 items.

PI supplements my EVE income, but it's not my primary source. Much like a lot of people in here, I actually enjoy PI. It gets a little tedious at times, but analyzing the market, and speculating on what commodities will go up and down is quite enjoyable for me.

here you go

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nARQkV6PDXE4_JI_XH-oypNgJrOZGivl6BYc3NTh_LQ/edit?usp=sharing

So a 10% tax is not that profitable then? What would guys recommend then?

I will start it like this,your comment is idiotic i make 1bil a month per char,with 10 min a day so that is 300min a month and that is 5hr,you say mining is more profitable explain me where is that place where you can mine 200mil per hr of invested time? This is just with my idotic low effort,good research setup i could have made it to do pi 1-2 hr a day and earn 10-17 bil depending on market per month but im too lazy.And you say 250 mil is best you can do,and yea did i mention i only have skills lvl 4 so not even perfect skills