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Station Trading- i don't get it
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Fin Udan
Doomheim
#21 - 2016-01-06 00:17:02 UTC
Buzz Orti wrote:
Not supposed to be posting here after my last post, but this is another forum,
and I do have a valid alt account (+one more alt on this account anyways)...

Day-trading buyer tip, lag also occurs in real life stock market.

However, in EVE Online, there is the added distance from station factors.
About 4 skills affect those, in regards to distance to view and distance to trade.
This working for both buy and sell, it results into 4 parameters.
Those range from station, to system, to 5 systems, to region, with one or 2 in between, for a total of 5 levels.

That means that , most likely, items that are traded or have placed orders rather , at distant stations or systems will appear from the same "station trading" window.
You may or may not be able to buy and sell those items on the spot, in the same station, if the skills requirements are met.

Further to those skills, the orders themselves affect the possibility or capacity for trading the items.
I may have something wrong with viewing the order, but it's not hard to verify with the EVElopedia under trade skills.
If the orders are placed for station only, or to region (if the person placing the order has skills to place to region) will affect the remote sale capacity.

In real life market what happens is that, when an order is filled to the floor agent, it takes the agent time to process them.
Those are not set order.
One order may or may not get through before other better ones.
That is why there are some precedence to offset potential delays...

Certain stocks are traded on set orders though.
Therefore, no matter what is placed , they will prevail, often with a discount.
I can see why preferred stocks would be perfect for that.

But yeah, I saw delays in a station with higher buy and lower sell.
I wouldn't wait too long to find when they were placed.
I mean, the only thing that can go wrong is margin trading.


In EVE Online, orders can be seen within regions, even if offered only at a station.
That means that those items cannot be dealt with unless moving to that station, in the same region, unless that regional skill level V are met.
(Which makes trading a charm.)


I don't want to be rude but what a load of incomprehensible bibble babble :)

You create buy orders to acquire inventory. You sell the acquired inventory using sell orders. There you have it trading in a nutshell.


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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#22 - 2016-01-06 02:12:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhivre
Buzz Orti wrote:


However, in EVE Online, there is the added distance from station factors.
About 4 skills affect those, in regards to distance to view and distance to trade.
This working for both buy and sell, it results into 4 parameters.
Those range from station, to system, to 5 systems, to region, with one or 2 in between, for a total of 5 levels.


What?

If I sit in jita with 0 skills, I can set a buy order based in jita, for region range, station range, or anything in between.

Remote buy orders and associated range only work like this:

I sit in perimeter, I cba going into jita because it is horrible, so, I open a buy order, and enter the station I wish to place it at.

That looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/eQL3LOc.png?1

I have Procurement V, so I can place remote buy orders at any station in the region.

This is how it looks if you are in space when you do it.

https://i.imgur.com/O911i0c.png?1

Now, because I also have Visibility V, I can select a buy order from that station to be at any range, although usually it would be 1-5 jumps range if setting up remotely.

Buzz Orti wrote:

That means that , most likely, items that are traded or have placed orders rather , at distant stations or systems will appear from the same "station trading" window.
You may or may not be able to buy and sell those items on the spot, in the same station, if the skills requirements are met.


What?

You can right click buy any item on the market, from anywhere in the region. Remote selling is for when I have assets 20j away from me, I can open my assets, click "Sell item" and list it on the market, or dump it to a buy order.

If you are selling an item, you can only sell it to a buy order which covers your station, regardless of what skills you have. If you want to sell from a sell order, you place that, and you can always do that at your local station.

https://i.imgur.com/AkiOf1P.png?1 is how remote skills look.


Buzz Orti wrote:

Further to those skills, the orders themselves affect the possibility or capacity for trading the items.
I may have something wrong with viewing the order, but it's not hard to verify with the EVElopedia under trade skills.
If the orders are placed for station only, or to region (if the person placing the order has skills to place to region) will affect the remote sale capacity.

In real life market what happens is that, when an order is filled to the floor agent, it takes the agent time to process them.
Those are not set order.
One order may or may not get through before other better ones.
That is why there are some precedence to offset potential delays...

Certain stocks are traded on set orders though.
Therefore, no matter what is placed , they will prevail, often with a discount.
I can see why preferred stocks would be perfect for that.

But yeah, I saw delays in a station with higher buy and lower sell.
I wouldn't wait too long to find when they were placed.
I mean, the only thing that can go wrong is margin trading.


In EVE Online, orders can be seen within regions, even if offered only at a station.
That means that those items cannot be dealt with unless moving to that station, in the same region, unless that regional skill level V are met.
(Which makes trading a charm.)


I have no idea what you are saying here.....

I think you are saying that you have seen buy orders on the market higher than the sell orders.

This happens frequently. If I have the best buy order in the region, it can be 2x jita price, but if it is in Perimeter, at station range, it will not get filled until someone goes there.

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