Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Is there some wildly compelling reason your hypothetical newb can't stick his head out, check for the red, then redock while still in his invuln timer?

This isn't really a post about the MJFG, it's a post about someone blaming their own poor decisions on the MJFG.

Contrary to the OP's claims, there was quite a lot he could have done to avoid this loss.

It wasn't the MJFG that prevented him from redocking - that was almost certainly because he allowed himself to float out of the docking ring, given his admission that he had to reapproach the station.

He "knew" he was going to be ambushed, so he could have simply stopped ship or even reapproached the station prematurely to avoid leaving the ring.

The OP couldn't have done a better job of setting himself up if he had made a deliberate, concerted effort to do so.

It should very much flag someone so I can shoot the prick without being shot by gate/station guns.

Seems I've not completely explained myself here.

I was not outside docking range. Any closer to station, I might aswell have been the station.
The moment the MJDG was activated, I could not dock. So no time to react, what so ever.

I was not playing station games. I undocked once before gang arrived. As soon as the full gang appeared, the dock button was pressed.
TiDi, lag, what ever you want to call it, during the spool up I could not dock. I was not flagged so should have been able to dock.

Was this the intention of the MJDG that during spool up your basically trapped?

Op, I can see your argument. Nobody likes being ambushed and forced into combat unprepared, but that is life and its up to you to not hit that undock button. On that note, I think undocking with an active kill-right and enemies in system is a sure way to get your ass handed to you, new module or not.

I'm sure this module will be used and abused in far more entertaining ways than just spoiling the fun of the station-carebear crowd.

A question: Why don't stations have windows that we can use look out to see all the nasties?

Also WTF happened with ambulation? If someone is hiding in the station, shouldn't we be able to dock up, find them and kick them in the face. Or at least petition the station to boot them out of the hangar. That'd be truly hilarious.

You ever head of insta undocks, pings and station invulnerability timers before, so you can't sit on 0 of the station with impunity anymore... WHA WHA WHAAA, I can't play station games the exact same way I used to WAAA.

You gonna complain about bubbles next...

I personally find the command destroyers to be awesome for 2 reasons it makes playing station games 10% harder and makes camping a high sec WH on a low/null/WHS side 10% harder. All you have to look out for a command destroyer and your still safe as houses.

THe command destroyers are still not strong counters to those methods if your any where near a competent pilot who is paying attention its trivially easy to avoid being jumped off a Station or WH. And the biggest fights the corporation I belong to has had with nullsecers has been sitting on a WH with a bubble up so we can retreat easily as long as we can hold the line.

Throw 2 - 3 command destroyers at that and you have ruined our day, so its not like Wormholers are not affected by the command destroyers, but I do think it is an interesting and fun addition to the game even if it does make some tactics I use less effective.

Actually the fact that it throws a wrench into some tactics is why I like them.

Edit; although I must say I do think there should be a counter to MJD's / MJFG say for example Mobile Cynosural Inhibitors stopping MJD's and MJFG's also, because that would give you the ability to dig your self in somewhere, given the 2 minute activation duration thats the only real use for that.

This is obviously not an issue in 0.0, but this seems like a good change for Low Sec. Fully supported.

PS - or just get rid of the stupid gate and station guns in Low Sec. Always hated them...

Laugh of the day.

They should rename the MJFG into t2 tear harvesting module.

It is about choice, my friend. It is about choice. You can choose to play a different game with different pvp mechanics. My question for you is this: If you KNEW the attack was going to happen, why did you piddle about instead of docking up immediately when you saw a Curse waiting for you on grid?

And another question. Why should other players who enjoy the mechanics of Eve be forced to adopt a different play style because you are stupid? I'd -1 this, but there is literally no negative numerical value that would do this post justice.

What if T2 bubbles from a hic prevent everything from beeing jumped via mjdg? :P
Of course you can easy kill them within 30 seconds (cycletime without heat), but that might be an approach which is at least giving us a counter, able to react quick nough, however the hic will 100% die ...
Maybe shorter cycletimes?!

OK, those 2 sentences made me leave my work desk, go upstairs, fire up my computer, log in and reply.

Either this guy successfully trolled me with the quote of the year (2016),

OR

He redefined the definition of "ganking" in EVE online...........

So YOU been forced into PVP is wrong.....
but YOU forcing some helpless miner into combat by blowing up his defenceless mining ship is the right thing the do.