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RealFlisker
Unleashed' Fury
The Initiative.
#1 - 2015-12-28 21:02:34 UTC
I'm not one for complaint's, nor for posting much on the forums.

But today, this little module really **** me off.

I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where..
But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp.

Trouble with eve these days is Hot drop's and blob's. Now, I undock with the intention's of pvp. Few in local all good.
Waiting outside for me is a curse, which is odd.. Station's, low-sec, and an activated kill right on me screams I'm going to get jumped.
I don't want this fight, because I already know its a loss. I am however curious as to what awaits me. I hold back, curse engages, local spikes. I got a few seconds gates are like 40A.U from station so I reapproach station with 0 intention of engaging anything.

In total, 8 ship's have landed on me. I'm scrambled, webbed, tracking disrupted, neuted. Well I've seen enough so I hit the dock button.. I hit it again... and again.. and again.. I cant dock.. I haven't engaged so why not?

I zoom out a little and noticed what turns out to be a micro jump drive generator spooling up. Still cant dock and boom.. 100km off station forced into an 8v1 that I knew was going to happen, knew I would loose and now know I couldn't of done anything about.


My question is this.

Why force people into pvp?
I thought pvp was about choice. planning your attack, working out if you should engage.

Been playing a while now, seen pvp change so much, my own two cents is black op's, hot drop's, titan bridges and now this new "Forced pvp module MJDG" is ruining it.

All you people that complain about the care bear's in Empire not coming out to low sec/null sec have a think why?


My suggestion for the MJFG is this:

If I cant activate my Smartbomb within 5,000m of a station or any other AoE weapon then the MJDG should be bound by the same rule due to it being an AoE weapon.
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-12-28 21:07:31 UTC
RealFlisker wrote:
I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec.
But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp.
Quoting for hilarity.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-12-28 21:11:41 UTC
RealFlisker wrote:
I'm not one for complaint's, nor for posting much on the forums.

But today, this little module really **** me off.



Apparently you are in for complaints since you stupidly make one yourself while the rage is pumping through your veins.

Before this continues, this rant is getting reported.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2015-12-28 21:11:55 UTC
You consented to PVP the moment you pressed undock.

And frankly, people who play station games the way you just described deserve everything they get.
RealFlisker
Unleashed' Fury
The Initiative.
#5 - 2015-12-28 21:17:22 UTC
Back story gets attention. I know undocked is "consent".

The problem is an AoE weapon being activated inside the radius of a station which doesn't let any other AoE weapons work inside 5,000m.
Perhaps the wrong forum thread agreed, but it does need to be changed.

Either give the MJDG the same restriction as other AoE weaponary, or remove the boundaries of all other AoE weapons.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-12-28 21:32:41 UTC
RealFlisker wrote:
Back story gets attention. I know undocked is "consent".

The problem is an AoE weapon being activated inside the radius of a station which doesn't let any other AoE weapons work inside 5,000m.
Perhaps the wrong forum thread agreed, but it does need to be changed.

Either give the MJDG the same restriction as other AoE weaponary, or remove the boundaries of all other AoE weapons.


Does the MJDG usage cause a weapon timer?
Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#7 - 2015-12-28 22:57:13 UTC
Maybe when links become on grid they can reassess this. In the mean time you are asking for a change that would make station/gate hugging link scrubs 99.9% safe. Being able to jump links off station/gates is a good thing. They deserve to die.

Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role - OP SUCCESS

Make the Muninn great again!
Captain Awkward
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-12-29 08:25:01 UTC
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
Maybe when links become on grid they can reassess this. In the mean time you are asking for a change that would make station/gate hugging link scrubs 99.9% safe. Being able to jump links off station/gates is a good thing. They deserve to die.


Like they have been for the last years ?
But if it worrys you so mutch, am shure its quite a easy change to give links also a 5km activation from strations restriction.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#9 - 2015-12-29 09:12:44 UTC
Let the "sub-caps online with cool but poorly thought out super modules is ruining eve" induced tears commence.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-12-29 09:27:13 UTC
Wait, are you saying you can't dock when it's spooling up and you're in the area?
sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-12-29 09:30:12 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
RealFlisker wrote:
I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec.
But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp.
Quoting for hilarity.


That quote made me spit out oatmeal on my screen laughing.... Big smile

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-12-29 11:25:41 UTC
Quote:
Why force people into pvp?
I thought pvp was about choice. planning your attack, working out if you should engage.



Clearly you've never jumped into low sec.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#13 - 2015-12-29 13:37:47 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
RealFlisker wrote:
I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec.
But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp.
Quoting for hilarity.


/thread

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#14 - 2015-12-29 14:00:00 UTC
Captain Awkward wrote:
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
Maybe when links become on grid they can reassess this. In the mean time you are asking for a change that would make station/gate hugging link scrubs 99.9% safe. Being able to jump links off station/gates is a good thing. They deserve to die.


Like they have been for the last years ?
But if it worrys you so mutch, am shure its quite a easy change to give links also a 5km activation from strations restriction.


What, you mean that links hugging stations/gates for years is broken as hell? Yes im aware. Which is why having a distance activation limit for micro jump field would then again make station/gate hugging links safe again.

CCP has already stated theyre moving links on grid, why waste the time recoding the current setup for links and just wait for CCP to revamp them completely for on grid use.

Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role - OP SUCCESS

Make the Muninn great again!
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#15 - 2015-12-29 14:42:10 UTC
I AM ACTIVATING THE T2 TEAR INDUCER


IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING, HOLMES

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Dr Cedric
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2015-12-29 14:52:46 UTC
The arguement seems valid,

What if instead of him being a PvPer in low sec that likes to play station games, it is a noob Null-pilot trying to peak his head out to see if that red is on station or not?

Why should the noob get jetted off 100 km from station just for poking his/her head out with no intention to fight? Its almost like the MJDG is the same as the station-game, just for the other side.

I'd say a bit of a look at the mechanics of it is in order to make sure everything CCP wants to happen is, and unintentional things aren't.

Ced

Cedric
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#17 - 2015-12-29 14:59:01 UTC
Dr Cedric wrote:
The arguement seems valid,

What if instead of him being a PvPer in low sec that likes to play station games, it is a noob Null-pilot trying to peak his head out to see if that red is on station or not?

Why should the noob get jetted off 100 km from station just for poking his/her head out with no intention to fight? Its almost like the MJDG is the same as the station-game, just for the other side.

I'd say a bit of a look at the mechanics of it is in order to make sure everything CCP wants to happen is, and unintentional things aren't.

Ced




Why shouldn't that noob null-pilot be subject to the same risks everyone is? If he wants a modicum of protection or safety against player aggression, he should stay in one of the starter systems. Otherwise, he's fair game.


PVP - whether consensual or not - is at the heart of this game. What you propose is the antithesis of that.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-12-29 14:59:38 UTC
Only if he's not telling fibs (accidental or not) and indeed one cannot dock in the AoE. If it blocks docking on spool up then I'd say that's wrong or at least probably not working as intended as it'll be a first where YOUR action can stop THEM docking.

But honestly, I reckon he made a mistake.


Whilst we're on the topic, it still doesn't flag. These should flag the ship. Why the hell someone can boop me away from a lowsec gate and to stop them *I* get shot by the gate guns is ludicrous.
Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#19 - 2015-12-29 16:51:18 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
RealFlisker wrote:
I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec.
But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp.
Quoting for hilarity.


Requoted for the irony.

Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-12-29 17:00:16 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
RealFlisker wrote:
I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec.
But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp.
Quoting for hilarity.



Good larfs here, too:

Quote:
I zoom out a little and noticed what turns out to be a micro jump drive generator spooling up. Still cant dock and boom.. 100km off station forced into an 8v1 that I knew was going to happen, knew I would loose and now know I couldn't of done anything about.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

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