Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Well, the player base grew just fine back when there was actually less coddling of beginners. We did not get a venture, let alone 2, for doing tutorial missions.

As for PLEX, if you are dumb enough to un-dock with them in your hold...well...you are just being dumb. Why would you even do that?

And PLEX are not real money once they become in game items.

* pulls up a chair *

Because there never has been? Record is 60K.

Which is what they do, when you unsub. You haven't even watched it to see their methodology, have you?

If people are renewing.... then they don't count as people that have left, do they.

This thread has been moved to Players and Ideas.

1st:
beginer quests need some tweeking. > I'll agree here, but tweeking said missions is difficult to give players all that they need to understand to play certain aspects of eve well. It's just too big to teach you everything for you. all they can really
do is give you the tools to play and hope you care enough to learn new things by looking them up.

A: Why? these missions are available in station and that's where you start. Putting one outside the station would have players flying around looking for more out of station NPC's to get missions from, and while they do exist they are not often used. Stick to stations for missions.

B: Some of them can be confusing however if you read everything from the agent it often tells you whats up.

2nd:
ship controls.
but a lot of the controls are ALL OVER the place. > There is a lot you can do with your ship, it's not easy to just set up perfect for all pilots, but you can change the key bindings in the settings menu if you want something better.
Aligning is usually followed by warp, and seeing how you need 75% max speed to enter warp this is more useful in it's current state than if it were changed only to align you at 0% velocity.
As for the sensor overlay you can turn the effect off if i remember correctly.

3rd:
Options
a lot of the options to change things are hard to find and/or in strange areas. > This i can agree with, but again with so many things able to be done in the game it's hard to just compact all the options into one location. Most have the options to change them whereever the object is on your overview. If your changing the overview, check the overview box, changing ship options, click on the ship or your capacitor ect.

some things i still haven't figured out.... like if you select a sation and hover over "dock" it has a "D" symbol like you can press "D" on your keyboard and you will dock. > D is the symbol because it would be hard to fit a small image of a ship docking in that area. I think you can change the keybinding if you want.

also seems to be no way to lock the tool bar or what ever it is on the far left side so it dosen't get resized by accedent. > This can be annoying but shouldn't be game breaking for you.

4th:
balance

A: Then watch out for them. most things in high sec wont shoot at you unless you knowingly enter a hostile location, the only real exceptions to this are drifters. If you are unsure of what it is you are warping to, warp at range to give yourself time to escape.

B: Yeah no, wormholes are dangerous and that's how they stay. If you wanted to stay safe you should have stayed in high sec.

C: player ganks and traps
-with in 10. - 8. space there needs to be some why to protect new players from these things > why?

-the only trap i have seen so far is the box of loot sitting out and some one waiting for some newbie that dosen't know not to loot it.... in these systems i think you should not be able to loot these things at all. > Again, why these suggestions remove gameplay and make the game less interesting so why?

SUBSCRIPTION - PLEX - CASH SHOP
It's true that players have made rumors discussing the possibility of F2P eve but there is absolutely 0 actual evidence from CCP about the idea. Also those cosmetic items change often and new ones are added almost every patch.

if it IS true.... i caution VERY must to sticking to cosmedic/vanity things and don't offer any thing like "reduces training time by (X) number of time" > Yeah, we know, trust me we know.

event items... at least frostline ones since i haven't seen any others.... need some work also.
would be nice to get things like santa hats, santa beards, a cute fluffy coat.
a shuttle that looks like a sled being pulled by raindeer.
... umm no? That might be cute and work for other mmo's but i would hate to see this in eve. If you want to show off your character in a santa suit with a beard, use photoshop.

Also they add 2-3 dozen new items every year around the holidays that represent random things that have happened in the galaxy. Typically these are gag gifts to players but they also give out snowball and fireworks launchers and ammo so theres that.

PLEX
these are bought with real money and should be treated diffrently then other items. > No, and if yes why?

the other day i heard some one on the killboard got ganked in highsec with 25 PLEX on him... and they all vanished.
that is a lot of money to lose and kinda feels like a cash sink... and discurages people from buying them... and this limits supply for those of us that depend on the plex to be able to play the game. > Sorry but no. This person was an idiot for transporting it that way, you can redeem plex at any station you want just by being in that station, no need to travel with them in your cargo, ever. Further it doesnt reduce the amount available by any noticeable degree. If your selling plex, get to the station you want to sell first. If your buying then just use it there is no point ever to travel with plex in your cargo.

on that note it seems the price of PLEX continues to raise.... making it harder for a poor person to be able to make the isk to buy one. > The price, like almost every other item in the game, is not set by CCP it's set by supply and demand of the players. Demand is high so is the price. Want it to go down? Buy less pay for the game yourself more.

as an added note

This whole section is walking in stations which has been discussed to death. The closest we have is captains quarters and DUST and that's all we'll likely see for a while.

There is actually quite a bit of information the game out there. And there is this other thing called Google....

For example, this page explains the concept of velocity in game. Why are these concepts of velocity important? Well, it has to do with how turret damage works in game....which can be found here. And on that page you'll find the equation for the chance to hit. You can also find it here on evelopedia as well. You'll note that transversal speed is part of the chance to hit function. This is why you don't want to fly straight at or away from an attacker. You'll also see in that equation things like signature radius, basically how big a target is your ship. This is why some ships are good at what is known as sig tanking--the ship has a small signature and with good transversal landing a good shot is not that likely.

There is a huge amount of information on how things work in the game. So much so that tutorials to teach it all to you is simply not feasible. You need to figure these things out yourself after a certain point. And Evelopedia is a good place to start. Also, coming to the forums and asking is another option as well.