EVE New Citizens Q&A

Personally I never understood how one can *snipe* someone using missiles ...
... when he sees thdm coming from far away.

Thrasher, 280mm t2 with Tremor, 50km and up.
Tornado ... 1200mm or 1400mm ... just pick a range.

Minmatar rule alpha, missiles waste time.
A rokh is nice as well and made for range, but has low volley damage.

Ah, yes yes.

Look up both ships in game.
Look at the bonii.

Seek out the 280mm, 1200mm and 1400mm turrets.
1200mm is more "mid range", but adaptable enough for further away.
Check their stats.


Tremor is t2 range ammo.
Check the stats of ammunition.


I'm deliberately rough, because researching it yourself will benefit you most.

Read. Read. Read.
Google. Read more.

I did it too. :)

alpha damage is damage per shot. As opposed to dps. Minnie guns are slow firing but hit harder.

Okay... so... let's go over a few things first.

While racial ship lines have certain "themes" that they follow (shield and range, armor and heavy tanking, etc) no particular race is locked into certain tactics.

While certain ships have bonuses and stats that encourage certain roles / tactics over others, very few ships are "locked" into a particular role / tactic.
You can literally shoehorn any ship in the game to fill any single role you desire. The real question is how effective it may or may not be (which is a whole other wall-of-text entirely).

There is no "best at" ship. There are "best within the context of X/Y/Z" but rarely a "best at performing X, Y, and Z."
Some better questions would be;
- what would be the best sniping ship for hit-and-run tactics?
- what would be the best sniping ship for sustained sniping tactics?
- what would be the best sniping ship for taking out lots of fast, little things?



Beyond this...

- if you want to snipe, look towards long-range-turrets.
---- Railguns (Hybrids): high range, moderate volley damage, moderate damage per second.
---- Beam Lasers (Lasers): moderate range, anemic volley damage, high damage per second.
---- Artillery (Projectile): short to moderate range, VERY high volley damage, anemic damage per second.

- keep in mind that long-range-turrets are virtually USELESS at close range (unless you have some means to completely lock down the movement of the hostile target).
The reason for this is that long-range-turrets have very poor "tracking." They simply can't keep up with things that are moving at high angular (see: relative) speeds to you.

- "tracking" as a concept is a little hard to understand (and virtually incoherent if you look at the mathematical formula)... but here is a "dumbed-down" version;
---- If a target's trajectory is parallel to yours, your odds of scoring a hit increase.
---- If a target's trajectory is perpendicular to yours, your odds of scoring a hit decrease.
---- If a target is "smaller" than you, your tracking will be slightly penalized (see: slower).
---- Basically,
----------- if a target is coming straight at or away from you, you have a high chance of scoring a hit. The same is true if you are both flying in the same direction.
----------- If a target is flying past you (and at close range) then your odds of scoring a hit drastically decrease.
----------- hitting targets smaller than you is harder.

- Frigates in general are not ideal sniper ships. While fast, they generally lack the CPU-Powergrid to fit long range weapons with any other useful module.
True "sniping ships" (in my opinion) start at the Destroyer level. But even then, you won't be able to do much by yourself besides pick off a single frigate.


Honestly though... I suggest you get into frigates and learn how to survive using "traditional tactics" first. Once you learn the basics you can go from there.
Good luck!

I'm not enough of a narcissist.

Also **effort**

Thanks for all the detailed responses, that helped me heaps. I guess the best thing for me to do now is just get some PvP experience first in lower tier cheaper ships before going all out in a good ship that I don't know how to use.

This is very true

Can I put you up as topic in F&I tomorrow? (aka after I've slept)

No, really! :D

Yea, there is a guy that used a rookie ship to take out a oracle.

Embarrassing km.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcIgBZXTucw

Ok, if we are pasting favorite links.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0903/TheCCPTest_divx_mp3.avi

Old forum page that it came from. And it was a pain to track down.