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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#1 - 2015-12-23 23:10:10 UTC
My formal thank you to the Society of Conscious Thought for responding to my request for further data regarding Mentor Raish's scans prior to the demise of the Amarian empress.

The information must be considered.

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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#2 - 2015-12-24 04:31:18 UTC
Your inquiry raises more questions than answers.

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Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#3 - 2015-12-24 06:22:54 UTC
Shocked

Daemun of Khanid
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#4 - 2015-12-24 09:48:35 UTC
Nothing about this seems to be anything but wild speculation, conspiracy theories and frankly SoCT fan fiction. Entertaining but nothing more, I wonder how you got it in your head that this is an actual reply from SoCT to your inquiry?
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#5 - 2015-12-24 20:11:17 UTC
((Chronicles are not IC knowledge and I really don't think that this thread is redeemable.))

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Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#6 - 2015-12-24 21:57:25 UTC
((I'm a character, and I now have knowledge of it. If chronicles can't be used as IC knowledge then we have pretty much no lore. Spin it however you want, he said she said his sisters brothers uncle told him yadayada. It's prime fiction and just as valid as anything else you have to go on in the EvE universe.))

Daemun of Khanid
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#7 - 2015-12-24 22:06:15 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
Nothing about this seems to be anything but wild speculation, conspiracy theories and frankly SoCT fan fiction. Entertaining but nothing more, I wonder how you got it in your head that this is an actual reply from SoCT to your inquiry?

Do not be so narrow minded in your approach to what is and what is not. An inquiry was made and an answer was received, however indirect you may consider it. It was a question not just from myself but from many others and as such to keep the answer exclusively directed to one person would be negligent.

I am merely thankful to have received the data concerning the late Empress, however it was delivered.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#8 - 2015-12-24 22:50:23 UTC
Daemun Khanid wrote:
((I'm a character, and I now have knowledge of it. If chronicles can't be used as IC knowledge then we have pretty much no lore. Spin it however you want, he said she said his sisters brothers uncle told him yadayada. It's prime fiction and just as valid as anything else you have to go on in the EvE universe.))

((Where it's reasonable it's common knowledge then Chrons can be used IC. When it's a secret council meeting, and conversations between a Jove & an individual, and ancient Jove history, then no it's not IC knowledge. It's lore yes, but it's background lore for players, not for characters. It's not reasonable to assume our characters know what is said inside Concord inner circle meetings in the slightest.))
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-12-25 00:29:39 UTC
Petrified wrote:

Do not be so narrow minded in your approach to what is and what is not. An inquiry was made and an answer was received, however indirect you may consider it. It was a question not just from myself but from many others and as such to keep the answer exclusively directed to one person would be negligent.

I am merely thankful to have received the data concerning the late Empress, however it was delivered.


It is writings from an entertainer. I fail to see how it can be taken as official answers from high officials..

((I sat here for probably 15 minutes, but cannot think of any other debate IC than that. To put. It solidly blunt, this is prime example of selective Meta roleplay. There is a hell of a lot of chronicle info we do not know. No roleplayer knows the cause of the seyllin. None know the details of earth origin. None know the point of view of MANY chronicles. Chronicles started as a means to give trivia and science. Then evolved into history and character pieces that do not affect lore. That started to change with behind the scenes events that related to lore. There was enough in game to present something for roleplayers to work with.

This chronicle was extremely well written, but examine it from a true in character point of view. Account for all factions and how they act. There is no way that we would be told any of this in character by the parties involved. Just the basic knowledge of Jamyl presented, excluding all the EA and T1 info would have mass riots in amarr. it would be civil war so just cancel the trials.

It was entirely an OOC lore dump. There is no part of the discussion presented that has any lore support to ever have been leaked. Especially to some random capsuleer's request.))

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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#10 - 2015-12-25 00:55:35 UTC
Uh...... Right........ OK then. Thank you for that uh...... Lesson? Yaa.....

((On the bright side when the info gets released in an ic way you'll get to say "I told you so!" Until that point your more less seen as a psycho. Other people explained why way better than I would. Either way no huge harm or whatever.))
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-12-25 01:02:32 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Uh...... Right........ OK then. Thank you for that uh...... Lesson? Yaa.....

((On the bright side when the info gets released in an ic way you'll get to say "I told you so!" Until that point your more less seen as a psycho. Other people explained why way better than I would. Either way no huge harm or whatever.))


((It is quite awkward for me in that regard. There is a multitude of things said in the chronicle that address, add to and resolve IC theories and raise new ones. How can one know any without the deeper roleplay and ic lore with it.))

To quote Lfod Shi

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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#12 - 2015-12-25 05:50:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrified
((Given the in character question I posed prior and the how 'Inheritance' could be selectively read in as an answer to that as well as other questions: SoCT would not place all the cards on the table, as such what information we would receive would simply be: Mentor Raish is well and safe. The data he acquired is safe and is being studied. The Drifters are a trouble Empyreans and the Empire have stired up.))

((More to wit: I'm just really happy that a SoCT chronicle was put out. That should have been made more clear and less clumsy. My apologies there for anyone who took offense.))

The response from the SoCT, which I thought we all received, was that Mentor Raish survived as well as his data. They are not ready to release the information obtained as of yet, but said they are considering it. I'm not sure what a 'hornet' is exactly, but there was some mention of kicking a nest of them in relation between the Capsuleers and Drifters.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#13 - 2015-12-25 08:25:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Akrasjel Lanate
((This is an IC forum, this info is only known OOC for now it may change in the future. This thread should be closed.))

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Teinyhr
Ourumur
#14 - 2015-12-25 12:39:31 UTC
(( I simply do not understand how you can construe anything of that as IC information. None of it is as of yet announced IC. That may change, but until then, I'll treat this all entirely OOC. IC we do not know if Mentor Matshi Raish is alive or not, what if anything his scans found and so on. I like the chronicle as well, but it is at this point entirely OOC lore.))

What data have you received exactly? Again I see no official data imprints that anything of what you posted comes from SoCT itself or even its affiliates, but just a causerie from someone who has a way with words and a lively imagination. You're free to believe what you will, but don't try explain how black is white when it with all information available to us is not. Mentor Raish' status since the altercation with Empress Jamyl has not been announced as far as I know, but I do think it really is no business of ours in the first place. They'll tell us if or when they're ready, until then I would suggest not to grasp on straws.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#15 - 2015-12-25 15:25:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
((I agree with Akrasjel - this is a pretty abomidable thread - none of that chronicle would be IC information in any way, and this is a pretty blunt way of trying to hoist yourself up by being "the one to know" it. As for the contents of the chronicle, I'm sure we will hear of the SoCT taking the Directorate's place as the fifth point soon enough. There's no way we would have ever heard about Veniel, and definitely not the Yoiul or the lattice in W477-P, or anything else mentioned.))


What a strange post - and just how would you confirm any of this as an actual communication? The society is not a group to share its secrets, and they certainly would not allow information containing something like this to go public. Veniel appearing again? The Yoiul? None of this is believable in any way without it being told by the Society or discovered by us ourselves. Please refrain from spreading false speculation on the summit.

/Uriel

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#16 - 2015-12-27 00:43:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrified
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
((I agree with Akrasjel - this is a pretty abomidable thread - none of that chronicle would be IC information in any way, and this is a pretty blunt way of trying to hoist yourself up by being "the one to know" it. As for the contents of the chronicle, I'm sure we will hear of the SoCT taking the Directorate's place as the fifth point soon enough. There's no way we would have ever heard about Veniel, and definitely not the Yoiul or the lattice in W477-P, or anything else mentioned.))


What a strange post - and just how would you confirm any of this as an actual communication? The society is not a group to share its secrets, and they certainly would not allow information containing something like this to go public. Veniel appearing again? The Yoiul? None of this is believable in any way without it being told by the Society or discovered by us ourselves. Please refrain from spreading false speculation on the summit.

/Uriel

((see last post))

Did Veniel appear recently?

((this thread can be closed))

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CCP Delegate Zero
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2015-12-27 02:58:14 UTC
Seems like this thread got to the point that it couldn't really stay on IGS.

Guys, can we please remember that double brackets on IGS are not encouraged. They don't make OOC material OK regardless of good intentions.

Going to leave it open here though.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#18 - 2015-12-27 03:29:02 UTC
Fair enough, DZ; though I think it's also fair to say that the chronicle's not really IC admissible yet. vOv

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Justin Cody
War Firm
#19 - 2016-01-11 09:03:07 UTC
I enjoyed the chronicle...it goes a long way in explaining why w-space operates the way it does with each system it's own pocket of space-time that is co-terminus with the rest of New Eden. This also explains why the systems in W-space appear to be copies of certain systems in the New Eden Cluster - because they are artificial constructs directly based on those.

isogen 5 clearly has some great role in high energy physics as well as assembly and underlying control mechanisms of these time-space pockets.

I would ask if it is possible that capsuleer harvesting of the resources might destabilize those control systems and also to ask how we can refine and adapt isogen 5 for our own uses?

CCP Falcon
#20 - 2016-01-16 16:06:19 UTC
There'll be news and updates coming soon with information regarding SoCT becoming the fifth point on the star.

At this stage, it's not considered to be in character knowledge as it's only known within the upper echelons of CONCORD and the Inner Circle.

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