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Noobman for CSM XI. W-space Candidate

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Moo Moocow
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#21 - 2015-12-23 23:32:05 UTC
+1

Good luck m8
GizzyBoy
Aperture Harmonics
#22 - 2015-12-23 23:32:19 UTC
FYI the best way to lose some of your most active players in game, is to get them voted onto csm.

Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#23 - 2015-12-23 23:34:24 UTC
Captain Sonic wrote:
Braxus Deninard wrote:
Captain Sonic wrote:
Fastest way to have WH space turned into Dominion SOV nullsec would be to vote for this man. All i can hope for is that the WH CFC coalition has lost enough Merritt by now so there wont be a Horde effect.

Keep WH space Rent and Blue Doughnut free -1


Ah yes an ex-NOHO salt post, why am I not surprised. I forgot about the amazing CSM that your alliance gave us (corbexx) who went to goons straight away and told everyone he had "alts in wormhole corps" like that was meant to make it completely ok.

Time for someone who is actually active in wormholes to give it a go I think.


We had King TwoStep (hes my boo)


Yes, I am clearly better than the false idol (corbexx)

CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog

etheris
eXceed Inc.
#24 - 2015-12-23 23:36:21 UTC
Two step wrote:
Captain Sonic wrote:
Braxus Deninard wrote:
Captain Sonic wrote:
Fastest way to have WH space turned into Dominion SOV nullsec would be to vote for this man. All i can hope for is that the WH CFC coalition has lost enough Merritt by now so there wont be a Horde effect.

Keep WH space Rent and Blue Doughnut free -1


Ah yes an ex-NOHO salt post, why am I not surprised. I forgot about the amazing CSM that your alliance gave us (corbexx) who went to goons straight away and told everyone he had "alts in wormhole corps" like that was meant to make it completely ok.

Time for someone who is actually active in wormholes to give it a go I think.


We had King TwoStep (hes my boo)


Yes, I am clearly better than the false idol (corbexx)




While we're talking about ex-NoHo folk.

Hi Two Step, you sex panda.
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#25 - 2015-12-23 23:38:44 UTC
etheris wrote:

While we're talking about ex-NoHo folk.

Hi Two Step, you sex panda.


Dude, I told you to stop looking in my window. The costumes I wear during sex are between me and the consenting creatures I have sex with.

CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog

Seraph Essael
Anomalous Existence
Spatial Instability
#26 - 2015-12-23 23:42:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Essael
-1 from me.

One of the main guys turning higher class holes into renters paradise... running for CSM to "better WH space"...

yeah...

No thanks.Roll

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."

J3rz11
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#27 - 2015-12-23 23:45:14 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:
-1 from me.

One of the main guys turning higher class holes into renters paradise... running for CSM to "better WH space"...

yeah...

No thanks. Roll


NoobMan wrote:

FAQ
Aren't you the cancer that is killing w-space with your rental empire?
No. We don't have a rental empire, if you believed that you have been had.



Congrats Seraph, you have been had!
Franky Saken
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#28 - 2015-12-23 23:46:22 UTC
judging by all the dead corps coming back to life to cry here we did well

gl noob
Seraph Essael
Anomalous Existence
Spatial Instability
#29 - 2015-12-23 23:48:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Essael
J3rz11 wrote:
Seraph Essael wrote:
-1 from me.

One of the main guys turning higher class holes into renters paradise... running for CSM to "better WH space"...

yeah...

No thanks. Roll


NoobMan wrote:

FAQ
Aren't you the cancer that is killing w-space with your rental empire?
No. We don't have a rental empire, if you believed that you have been had.



Congrats Seraph, you have been had!

I said turning... not running it... Learn to read Big smile
Helping QEX evict people. Helping LZHKs evict people... Spew all the bullshit you want, hell go ahead and twist what people say... Standard PR...

I'll say no more on the matter... Enjoy.

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."

Rebbeca Neresh
Birdsquad
Snuffed Out
#30 - 2015-12-23 23:49:32 UTC
I for one would love Noobman to be on the CSM his knowledge and insight in killing fun would be a welcome addition /sarcasam, maybe with his attention focused on the CSM he wont be able to rent out ALL of C5-C6 space.

So Mr Noobman what would you push as changes to the Wspace as we see it today, more isk for sites perhaps, your own personal kill fun button?
Defiant Blessings
Contra Ratio
DARKNESS.
#31 - 2015-12-23 23:54:25 UTC
As far as a wormhole candidate goes, I can't think of anyone I'd prefer over Noobman. Generally good debates, logic and reasoning is what I remember from him.

A solid candidate even if the platform needs a little work. Cool

+1, gl man.

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Adversity.
Psychotic Tendencies.
#32 - 2015-12-23 23:56:54 UTC
noobman

is a good man

There's no use crying after every mistake, you just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.

Archeras Umangiar
Hoover Inc.
Pandemic Legion
#33 - 2015-12-24 00:14:36 UTC
Uhm, +1 ;)
NoobMan
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#34 - 2015-12-24 00:17:26 UTC
Bisu Deckryder wrote:
So what would you do to liven up c6 space, that is claimed to be rented out by one major alliance and defended/expanded by that alliance and their frenemies who, although not blue, shoot each other less often than they work together?

Is this a game balance issue, is there something that ccp could do to break this up, or is it just a result of the massive value in c6 space and the fact that most pvp groups prefer c5 space and its better connections, leaving any potential opposition to this supposed rental empire disinclined to do anything about it. And if so should ccp do something to make c6 space more desirable to pvp groups?


I'll start out by saying Eve is a sandbox. If someone wants to build an empire and has the military might to do so then what ever the heart desires. W-space is very unique compared to the rest of Eve. Unlike in Null where goons can reach every region they control and defend it with n+1 fleets, that is just not the case in W-space. Sure you can rage roll the 113 c6s and 512 c5s (plus Shattered whs) but can the defender keep up that every single day to defend 1 system in their "Empire"?

There is counter play in the current game, what the opposition to empires lacks is organization and a plan they can follow through with.


  • The spawn rate of sites in c6 space is better.
  • More sites per day = more isk.
  • Less K-space connections = less PvP.
  • Less PvP groups living in c6 space or in c5/c6 = Less chance of your PvE fleet getting caught.


These are all reasons why c6 has evolved into a more attractive space to PvE in. Eve players are notorious for finding the most efficient way to spend thier time, so they created an empire to do it.

Lastly you ask "should ccp do something to make c6 space more desirable to pvp groups?"
If they made C6's have dual static 3bil holes, I could seriously attempt to persuade my corp to move to a c6 with a c5 and null static. It would be the dream to have a high class static and a null connection.

Operations Director of Hard K(n)ocks Inc.

Rob Kashuken
Dropbears Anonymous
Friendly Probes
#35 - 2015-12-24 00:20:15 UTC
Hi Noobman,

I'm curious as to your views on the introduction of the new Citadel structures for replacing POSes (as currently iterated by CCP), and what impact you think that they'll have on WH life.
dexter xio
Zero Fun Allowed
#36 - 2015-12-24 00:22:24 UTC
he is good man )))

Dead Game.

Nox52
Pterygopalatine
#37 - 2015-12-24 00:24:15 UTC
You provided some overarching ideas for reshaping wh space.

Could you go into more details into your vision of altering wh pve space, both with low and high wh space. Looking for some of the nitty gritty details like mechanic changes to spawns, wh mass, income etc.


Whats your take on the proposed implementation of citadels and wh space and any changes you'd like to implement?
NoobMan
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#38 - 2015-12-24 00:26:12 UTC
pubway Shi wrote:
As someone that regularly flew with noobman in Wspace as well as now in Kspace i can tell you the man knows his stuff as well as how negative or positive changes can effect Wspace (Kspace too). Being pretty much the figurehead of almost anything HK has done noobman is a great leader with a wealth of knowledge about the game.

I do have one question : Will you advocate for changes even if it may severly impact your own playstyle in a negative way if for the whole of Wspace/Kspace it ends up being a largely positive change?


I think that would have to be answered on a case by case basis. If something is going to negatively affect w-space but is a " largely positive change" there has to be a compromise, or some idea or tweak that could make it better. If your talking about a risk of something CCP wants to implement for a larger vision it really just depends.

When CCP came to us with the citadel changes and information, all of w-space fought for the current revised plan for citadels. I think CCP was surprised that we wanted a more brutal and hardcore rules for ourselves in W-space. With the success we had with changing CCP's minds on citadels I know there will be more opportunities to do the same thing in the future.

Operations Director of Hard K(n)ocks Inc.

Yoedric Tharewyn
EyEs.FR
X877.
#39 - 2015-12-24 00:29:45 UTC
-1

My only contact with HK was getting shittalked in local. Idk about the guy, but he's leading this bunch of edgy 15 years old teenagers.
NoobMan
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#40 - 2015-12-24 00:51:04 UTC  |  Edited by: NoobMan
Two step wrote:
NoobMan wrote:

I want to have a voice in the eventual revamp of capital escalations. You might be surprised but I do think the current method is a bit lucrative. CCP needs someone in their corner that has been doing it for years to get it just right.

I want to always bring to the table “Hey that is going to affect wormholers and here is why”. For instance I want Capitals to always have a balanced place in combat and PvE. Broad changes to Eve needs to always have someone double checking the repercussions for W-space.


I'd like to know more about your feelings on capital escalations. You say they are "a bit lucrative", and I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. What sorts of changes would you like to see?

I'd also love to hear more about your feelings on capital ships, given the announced plans.


I'm not being sarcastic, I've have made the entirely of my wealth from capital escalations. I know the real numbers of what you can pump out of a c6 mag or c5 mag or just a no effect c5. I've capital escalated in all of them.

I don't think the current method of solo 'Hero" dreading should be the baseline for the revamp of Capital PvE. I would like to see a larger cap fleet required. The difficulty of a perfect redesign is someone is always going to be able to run 5-6 clients and do it solo, which skews the Isk per hour per person. That person is taking on all the risk and has all the ISK invested in the pilots and ships, not to mention the immense workload of doing it solo (not just the sites themselves but the daily prep).

I think the ISK values of the sites themselves are not an issue. I'm not an economist nor do I have access to CCP data.

What I think has the majority of w-space upset is the 4 day respawn. If you are unfamiliar you can capital-ly escalate a site 4 days in a row before it despawns as long as you do not kill the trigger. All of the isk is in the escalation waves. Now if you had all sites be on a 24 lifetime, you would have sites randomly spawning at all times of the day. It would make the wormholes that are complete bearholes more active:


  • They might run at multiple times a day
  • They might run the site to completion for the extra ISK since it's not going to respawn.
  • They will have more new sigs while running, makes it feel more risky for the guy doing it solo because he has to stop what he's doing to scan down the new data/relic site. Will promote safety in larger groups.
  • Promotes being active in your wormhole, Instead of checking at DT if you got new sites then running them at your prefered time.


Now that is just 1 idea. there are so many tweaks you could do the the spawn sizes, the spawn locations, multiple rooms (say half the value is in capital escalation then you unlock a room or an open mission beacon generated that you can take subcaps only to that is the other half of the value.)

And lastly and and sort of controversially what if NPC kills increased the likelihood of a wormhole spawning in your hole?

Operations Director of Hard K(n)ocks Inc.