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Advice on scanning/salvaging, please
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Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
#1 - 2015-12-23 11:02:51 UTC
I know that there's a profession of "salvaging", where one tracks down wrecks and gets the Good Stuff(TM) out.

I can troll roid belts, and hope the right wrecks are there but ...

On my Directional Scanner I see other wrecks -- lots of them -- but I can't warp to them. Nor can I scan them down with probes, it would appear.

How, please do I get to them ? Other[people obviously know -- do I need to pay the salvager equivalent of James for a special module ?

A slightly frustrated would-be carebear.
The Bigpuns
United Standings Improvement Agency
#2 - 2015-12-23 11:08:42 UTC
Are you using combat probes? Not sure if you can scan wrecks, never tried, mostly people scan down mtu's.

Or, join Pro Synergy and do it legitimately.
Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
#3 - 2015-12-23 11:27:41 UTC
Just to make sure I've got it right ...

The Bigpuns wrote:
ostly people scan down mtu's.


Those would be Mobile Tractor Units ?


The Bigpuns wrote:
Or, join Pro Synergy and do it legitimately.


Are they the Corp that runs Salvaging ?


Anyway, TY for help o7
Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-12-23 11:52:57 UTC
You either combat scan down the MTU or you can combat scan down drones left behind. Best thing to do is to attach yourself to a L4 mission runner and ask to loot and salvage his wrecks for half of it. Some of the times, they will agree to it since it is a bit of isk extra that they don't have to worry about and you get something in the process. That is how I started my Eve career, salvaging behind a guy that shared standings with me while I cleaned up behind him.
Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
#5 - 2015-12-23 12:48:52 UTC
Morgan Agrivar wrote:
You either combat scan down the MTU or you can combat scan down drones left behind. Best thing to do is to attach yourself to a L4 mission runner and ask to loot and salvage his wrecks for half of it. Some of the times, they will agree to it since it is a bit of isk extra that they don't have to worry about and you get something in the process. That is how I started my Eve career, salvaging behind a guy that shared standings with me while I cleaned up behind him.


TY, but I DNK any L4 missioners, and I gather that, anyway, L4 missions are where griefers hang out and I am sure that someone salvaging would be an eminent target for them to garner their diet of carebear tears.

o7
Pix Severus
Empty You
#6 - 2015-12-23 13:25:53 UTC
Titti Sabezan wrote:
Morgan Agrivar wrote:
You either combat scan down the MTU or you can combat scan down drones left behind. Best thing to do is to attach yourself to a L4 mission runner and ask to loot and salvage his wrecks for half of it. Some of the times, they will agree to it since it is a bit of isk extra that they don't have to worry about and you get something in the process. That is how I started my Eve career, salvaging behind a guy that shared standings with me while I cleaned up behind him.


TY, but I DNK any L4 missioners, and I gather that, anyway, L4 missions are where griefers hang out and I am sure that someone salvaging would be an eminent target for them to garner their diet of carebear tears.

o7


You don't have to know them, just ask in local chat if anyone is interested in having you salvage their level 4 mission.

The reason level 4 mission runners are targeted by "griefers" is because a lot of them run their missions in very expensive battleships. This means there is a potential for profit and killboard padding if they can bait the mission runner into attacking them. They won't be interested in your salvage ship, unless they're desperate.

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Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
#7 - 2015-12-23 13:36:30 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:

They won't be interested in your salvage ship, unless they're desperate.


I thought griefers suffered terribly if they didn't get a daily quota of carebear tears.

That's why I stay at home in the station most of the time.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-12-23 15:32:14 UTC
You can't scan down wrecks, only player ships and deployables. In highsec just ignore blinkies, they won't suicide gank a salvager. You may also roam around lowsec faction warfare space and salvage all the T2 and T3D wrecks from fights.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
#9 - 2015-12-23 15:38:00 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
You can't scan down wrecks, only player ships and deployables. In highsec just ignore blinkies, they won't suicide gank a salvager. You may also roam around lowsec faction warfare space and salvage all the T2 and T3D wrecks from fights.

TY o7
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2015-12-23 15:45:21 UTC
Titti Sabezan wrote:
Pix Severus wrote:

They won't be interested in your salvage ship, unless they're desperate.


I thought griefers suffered terribly if they didn't get a daily quota of carebear tears.

That's why I stay at home in the station most of the time.


this makes me sad. but not for my jars of tears but for u.

the boogie men are not undefeatable.

you can go about hi-sec (mostly) untouched.

In the 3 years i stayed in hi sec i only got suidcide attacked once.

and i killed that dood 3 times on principle.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#11 - 2015-12-23 17:20:24 UTC
You sit outside of a level 4 mission station. You use combat scan probes and you get the ID of a mission running ship. Dont pick a marauder. You ignore other signatures on your scanner and you scan down the mission runner in the mission. you wait til they leave the room and salvage it.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Ginnie
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-12-23 22:40:03 UTC
Before I could fly a BS, I joined a corp where I would follow a fleet to mission and then loot and salvage. Different corps run differently with regards to this. I have been part of corps that split all of the loot and salvage equally between the players that were fleeted up; others allowed the looter/salvager to keep everything for themselves.

Personally, I like the splitting the ISK, but that's just me.

In my experience, it seems pretty common to have two or three players run the mission and one or two looters/salvagers. Typically in a Drake; sometimes a Noctis, but I don't see those as much any more.

It sounds plausible enough tonight, but wait until tomorrow. Wait for the common sense of the morning.
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#13 - 2015-12-24 02:30:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Pix Severus wrote:
battleships. This means there is a potential for profit and killboard padding if they can bait the mission runner into attacking them.

This is the same reason many players will be reluctant to let you into their fleet or tag along on missions to salvage. I'm not suggesting this will always be the case - just that there's not a lot of trust amongst players.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#14 - 2015-12-24 04:53:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Shiloh Templeton
Titti Sabezan wrote:
I thought griefers suffered terribly if they didn't get a daily quota of carebear tears.

That's why I stay at home in the station most of the time.

The threat of being ganked in high-sec is vastly over-rated if you are careful in a handful of dangerous systems (system hubs, uedama, etc). Get out there a fly around. Just stay out of low-sec until you learn how to be stealthy. Eventually you'll learn that being ganked is exciting on the rare occasion it happens (provided you're flying something you can afford to lose).

Unfortunately, ninja looting is mostly a relic of Eve's past. If you found some guides for new players they are probably from several years ago. There are good suggestions above if you want to do some legit salvaging in mission hubs -- pro synergy, asking in local.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#15 - 2015-12-24 05:52:28 UTC
Contact pro synergy. They will hook you up with everything you would need to know.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#16 - 2015-12-25 14:05:14 UTC
Scan down mobile tractor units or player ships.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#17 - 2015-12-27 00:03:00 UTC
Most mission runners, like myself, will tend to simply ignore you should you appear in someone's mission pocket. It's more or less good practice for them to do that anyways, just in case you happen to be there for more nefarious reasons that just the loot the rats drop.

I even sent rep drones on one guy because the entire room stopped shooting at me and started shooting at him. What can I say? Just seemed like letting him get smoked by the rats would have been bad karma. Beyond that, I tend to pay no mind to someone landing on grid.

As others have pointed out, Mobile Tractor Units are a good indicator of a mission site. Many of the various battleships available to players are another. Just make sure you keep an eye on the runner, if there are still rats alive. If he bails, intentionally or not, the rats may target you next.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Pix Severus
Empty You
#18 - 2015-12-27 00:10:11 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
Most mission runners, like myself, will tend to simply ignore you should you appear in someone's mission pocket.


Yes, if it's just one or two guys trying to bait you into attacking them, its fine to just ignore them and keep on going. If, however, you see local spike with lots of gankers (who you should have on your contacts list) then its time to get yourself docked up.

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Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#19 - 2015-12-27 03:16:16 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
Scan down mobile tractor units or player ships.

Yeah, that's why scrams and neuts are handy. Twisted

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Voxinian
#20 - 2015-12-28 14:32:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Voxinian
Titti Sabezan wrote:


TY, but I DNK any L4 missioners, and I gather that, anyway, L4 missions are where griefers hang out and I am sure that someone salvaging would be an eminent target for them to garner their diet of carebear tears.

o7



I think you are a bit overly worried about some 'griefers' popping up in a mission. Unless you do something stupid like attacking them in your PvE boat they are harmless. It is also very easy to troll them in a mission by destroying the loot/wrecks they try to take. Keep an eye on local chat, if you see suspects in local constantly then thats probably ninja looter popping up in missions.
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