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I am not legally married to Nauplius by Covenant law!
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Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#41 - 2015-12-31 19:23:53 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Well, why do you have slavery still? Unless I'm completely mistaken its to bring them closer to your god. To instill obedience to your god, to put them in an environment that fosters that. The ones at the top, the holders ect are there due to what their direct kin suffered through..... supposedly.... They didn't suffer themselves but vicariously through their ancestors who they never met, never actually saw suffer. Thus they don't know what they preach, all they know is that they are supposed to and reside in an environment that supports this belief.

THEY are monsters, they should suffer. The average Amarr who is a commoner or whatever haven't been exposed to this. I would imagine many of them planet side could care less about our existence. Does your Corporation strike at my people? Do they own slaves and talk about it? I've never seen it, I've never had the need to fire upon any of you. Are you monsters? Nope.


I am a Dame of the Kingdom, my father was a commoner elevated to Knighthood in YC 89. I hold 1009... err, 1010 people. Most of them are of mixed descent with none identifying themselves as "Minmatar", as far as the latest data shows. Their living conditions and the terms of their employment at my planetside installations are roughly comparable with low-tier lifetime employment schemes in Caldari megacorps such as Lai Dai, with another ideological and educational flavor, of course. Those people are also a minority (less than 15%) of my employees, if battleship and battlecruiser crew are are taken into account.

You may fire upon me now if you wish.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#42 - 2015-12-31 19:32:48 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:

Well, why do you have slavery still?

Let me answer this for you... because it is simply their internal affair, that is not your business.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#43 - 2015-12-31 19:38:41 UTC
Tamiroth wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Well, why do you have slavery still? Unless I'm completely mistaken its to bring them closer to your god. To instill obedience to your god, to put them in an environment that fosters that. The ones at the top, the holders ect are there due to what their direct kin suffered through..... supposedly.... They didn't suffer themselves but vicariously through their ancestors who they never met, never actually saw suffer. Thus they don't know what they preach, all they know is that they are supposed to and reside in an environment that supports this belief.

THEY are monsters, they should suffer. The average Amarr who is a commoner or whatever haven't been exposed to this. I would imagine many of them planet side could care less about our existence. Does your Corporation strike at my people? Do they own slaves and talk about it? I've never seen it, I've never had the need to fire upon any of you. Are you monsters? Nope.


I am a Dame of the Kingdom, my father was a commoner elevated to Knighthood in YC 89. I hold 1009... err, 1010 people. Most of them are of mixed descent with none identifying themselves as "Minmatar", as far as the latest data shows. Their living conditions and the terms of their employment at my planetside installations are roughly comparable with low-tier lifetime employment schemes in Caldari megacorps such as Lai Dai, with another ideological and educational flavor, of course. Those people are also a minority (less than 15%) of my employees, if battleship and battlecruiser crew are are taken into account.

You may fire upon me now if you wish.

Safety's off...
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:

Well, why do you have slavery still?

Let me answer this for you... because it is simply their internal affair, that is not your business.

Gallante Prison camps.....
About as relevant as your opinion in these matters.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#44 - 2015-12-31 19:54:05 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Which goes to show exactly why the militias are jokes on all sides. "The good outweighing the bad" meaning no one really cares about what you've done or who you are, as long as there's another purple on the field. Deriding the opponents for who they fight with and how they bring more numbers to win the day, while ignoring who's side by side with themselves because it'd be inconvenient to have principles of your own.

I could spend a few weeks shooting the right pirates while taking Imperial cash for each kill, then join up with the 24th and there'd be conspicuous silence from the Imps when someone points out to them that they have an enemy among them, as long as I shot the right targets and brought another body to the field like with their own Sansha and Sabik infestations of the past. Just like how people quickly blank and firmly ignores it when someone points out that we have vile infestations in our own ranks.

"It's for the greater good" they bleat. "They've changed!" they whinny. "We have no principles or standards!" they... don't really admit to, no matter how true it might be. On all sides, this has time and again shown itself to be the truth of the matter.

Personally, I can't really imagine any victory tasting sweet for either side, when neither side seems able to eke one out without smearing themselves in feces beforehand.


I've always been taught to use every advantage I can get to achieve my end goals. If Blooders and Sansha are willing to throw themselves at my end goals more power to them. Doesn't mean I have unwavering trust in them. The enemy of my enemy is my friend as they say. What we can do on our own we can do whether we have help or not. If others are willing to throw themselves into the ring more power to them. Whether they change or not is not my problem nor is trying to make them change my concern. If it somehow does happen it will because we are in the right in what we do. Our culture(environment) and our actions MAY cause that to happen or they will stab us in the back and we will simply crush them in time. Personally I don't care if the victory is bitter or sweet, as long as its obtained. Welcome to war in general.

To put it bluntly I don't lay in bed with my ammunition but I sure like it when its around.
Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#45 - 2015-12-31 19:54:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Tamiroth
Deitra Vess wrote:
Safety's off...
Hey, let's not sink to the Funk level. If you really wish to shoot at me, we can arrange a frigate 1v1 somewhere. After all, it's you minmatar who like to have up to 3 living people crewing your frigs instead of drones...

...Oh wait, derp, you're -7.6....

Sad

Well, good luck then trying to gank my Purifier :P
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#46 - 2015-12-31 20:00:14 UTC
Tamiroth wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Safety's off...
Hey, let's not sink to the Funk level. If you really wish to shoot at me, we can arrange a frigate 1v1 somewhere. After all, it's you minmatar who like to have up to 3 living people crewing your frigs instead of drones...

...Oh wait, derp, you're -7.6....

Sad

Well, good luck then trying to gank my Purifier :P


Gank? I haven't sunk that low..... Killing pods on the other hand.........

And I wont be going out of my way for you, I just simply have people in groups I don't try to fire at who I will now.

(Also I avoid highsec, lowsec is home)
Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#47 - 2015-12-31 20:07:08 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Gank? I haven't sunk that low..... Killing pods on the other hand.........

And I wont be going out of my way for you, I just simply have people in groups I don't try to fire at who I will now.

(Also I avoid highsec, lowsec is home)
Ah. I usually assume that most people in lowsec are NBSI except a few well known corps, so I'd expect you to shoot me anyway if we met there.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#48 - 2015-12-31 20:24:44 UTC
Tamiroth wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Gank? I haven't sunk that low..... Killing pods on the other hand.........

And I wont be going out of my way for you, I just simply have people in groups I don't try to fire at who I will now.

(Also I avoid highsec, lowsec is home)
Ah. I usually assume that most people in lowsec are NBSI except a few well known corps, so I'd expect you to shoot me anyway if we met there.


Nope, I have SOME standards. I don't shoot transports or mining barges unless they are red or a war target. Combat and exploration ships on the other hand I shoot. Also I'm -7.6 mainly from shooting PIE, PYRE and other (at the time) Amarr aligned groups (Imperium/provi too) before I reinlisted with the TLF. I'm too cheap to pay concords extortion racket to lower it. Mind you all my ROE goes out the airlock when I'm in a fleet unless I'm running it. Never attacked Luna even though we've been on grid together before, and still probably wouldn't.
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#49 - 2015-12-31 20:56:07 UTC
How has this thread become about war?

I was merely stating the illegality of my marriage for potential Sani Sabik husbands. I'm still on the prowl for Mr. Right!
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#50 - 2015-12-31 23:05:47 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
How has this thread become about war?

I was merely stating the illegality of my marriage for potential Sani Sabik husbands. I'm still on the prowl for Mr. Right!

So your married, but looking.

“Here also are the heralds of his praise."
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2016-01-01 05:58:22 UTC
The enemies of our enemies aren't friends, dear.

They never are.

Give them even a slightest excuse to advance their own agendas and it's your ship they will be riddling with holes.

However, until then, they may still be useful.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Seraphim Risen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2016-01-04 16:35:10 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Which goes to show exactly why the militias are jokes on all sides.

Since you are speaking about yourself, I agree with that part.
But don't you dare equal us to your kind. You can speak about yourself, that is your privilege, but you can't speak about what you have no idea about - about us.

Since otherwise you just show your tribal ignorance. But, honestly, I didn't expect anything even a one percent better from someone like you.


Quiet, dear. Adults are talking about things above your intellectual level.

Never not badpost.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#53 - 2016-01-05 12:03:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Deitra Vess wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:

Well, why do you have slavery still?

Let me answer this for you... because it is simply their internal affair, that is not your business.

Gallante Prison camps.....
About as relevant as your opinion in these matters.

Typical minmatar ignorance.
It is rather disturbing to see inability of tribals to comprehend the difference in location - slave holding in a territory, where slavery is legal, and foreign prisoner holding, where it is illegal? What is that now, IQ less than 50?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#54 - 2016-01-05 12:08:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Seraphim Risen wrote:

Quiet, dear. Adults are talking about things above your intellectual level.

You can't claim to know anything above my intellectual level while you serve under Derpslo.

No sane person would choose that incompetent scum of space to be their leader, unless they got fedo brain in their skull after a cloning incident. Or got their brains burned by excess of mindflood.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Seraphim Risen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2016-01-05 14:45:49 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Seraphim Risen wrote:

Quiet, dear. Adults are talking about things above your intellectual level.

You can't claim to know anything above my intellectual level while you serve under Derpslo.

No sane person would choose that incompetent scum of space to be their leader, unless they got fedo brain in their skull after a cloning incident. Or got their brains burned by excess of mindflood.


Never done mindflood. You'll have to let me know how it feels! I get the impression you're very familiar with that, crash, and/or Frentix, dear. Its the only explanation for you forgetting almost all conversation except "THAT IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED" in its various permutations.

I stick to Blue Pill and Exile, strong, when absolutely necessary according to the ship I'm flying. And I'll admit to a stint of Blue Paradise addiction. Those were fun, dark days.

Never not badpost.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#56 - 2016-01-05 15:07:32 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:

Well, why do you have slavery still?

Let me answer this for you... because it is simply their internal affair, that is not your business.

Gallante Prison camps.....
About as relevant as your opinion in these matters.

Typical minmatar ignorance.
It is rather disturbing to see inability of tribals to comprehend the difference in location - slave holding in a territory, where slavery is legal, and foreign prisoner holding, where it is illegal? What is that now, IQ less than 50?

The caldari homeworld......
Again a thing about as relevant to the conversation as your opinion. If my IQ is less than fifty I'm afraid of what yours is.
Seraphim Risen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2016-01-05 15:10:20 UTC
I've met people with an IQ around 50. Even they're more rational than ol' Kim.

Where's that favorite drawing of Heth I made... I wish I hadn't lost those.

Never not badpost.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#58 - 2016-01-05 17:08:55 UTC
Seraphim Risen wrote:
I've met people with an IQ around 50. Even they're more rational than ol' Kim.

That just means your IQ is even lower if you really believe they might be more rational than me.
But indeed, from your common point of view with them I am not surprised you fail to see logic in what I say. Pity. Maybe I should start speaking in simple sentences for your kind to understand?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#59 - 2016-01-05 17:14:45 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:

The caldari homeworld......
Again a thing about as relevant to the conversation as your opinion. If my IQ is less than fifty I'm afraid of what yours is.

If that's the case, it is from three to about five times greater than yours, depending on how low your would be. Maybe even greater than that, but since you somehow manage to make words into sentences, I won't give you below 30.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Barrdyn Cesaille
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2016-01-05 17:20:11 UTC
If you're going to insult each other, at least ensure the insults make sense! An IQ that low would be liable to mean you couldn't hold a reasonable conversation (although I could argue that neither of you are), let alone pilot a spaceship.