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[Proposal] Allow Gevlon Goblin Back on the Ballot for CSM XI
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Jathlor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-12-22 03:22:56 UTC
Title says it all.
I would like to put Gevlon Goblin back on the ballot.
A vote for Gevlon Goblin would be a vote against the sytem. I am interested in how many of the playerbase share his feelings and agree with his platform.
Not allowing the players to be able to vote for a change in the system is excessivly stifling.
A non vote does not have the same effect as a vote against the system. Non votes are written off as people not interested in the game enought to vote. Where as a vote against the system activly shows that the protesters are acctually invested and passionate about the game.

If CCP truly wanted the all opinions of its playerbase theyd put Gevlon Goblin back on the ballot, and take into consideration how much support his platform gets.
Taking him off the ballot only shows that in order to be heard by ccp you have to aggree with them.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#2 - 2015-12-22 13:42:23 UTC
It would be infinitely more effective to request a "none of the above" option.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#3 - 2016-01-07 21:39:06 UTC
Jathlor wrote:
Title says it all.
I would like to put Gevlon Goblin back on the ballot.
A vote for Gevlon Goblin would be a vote against the sytem. I am interested in how many of the playerbase share his feelings and agree with his platform.
Not allowing the players to be able to vote for a change in the system is excessivly stifling.
A non vote does not have the same effect as a vote against the system. Non votes are written off as people not interested in the game enought to vote. Where as a vote against the system activly shows that the protesters are acctually invested and passionate about the game.

If CCP truly wanted the all opinions of its playerbase theyd put Gevlon Goblin back on the ballot, and take into consideration how much support his platform gets.
Taking him off the ballot only shows that in order to be heard by ccp you have to aggree with them.



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Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#4 - 2016-01-08 01:17:10 UTC
Jathlor wrote:
Taking him off the ballot only shows that in order to be heard by ccp you have to aggree with them.

No. Running on the platform that Gevlon did was just plain disrespectful and juvenile.

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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#5 - 2016-01-12 20:12:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Darek Castigatus
Jathlor wrote:
Title says it all.
I would like to put Gevlon Goblin back on the ballot.
A vote for Gevlon Goblin would be a vote against the sytem. I am interested in how many of the playerbase share his feelings and agree with his platform.
Not allowing the players to be able to vote for a change in the system is excessivly stifling.
A non vote does not have the same effect as a vote against the system. Non votes are written off as people not interested in the game enought to vote. Where as a vote against the system activly shows that the protesters are acctually invested and passionate about the game.

If CCP truly wanted the all opinions of its playerbase theyd put Gevlon Goblin back on the ballot, and take into consideration how much support his platform gets.
Taking him off the ballot only shows that in order to be heard by ccp you have to aggree with them.


No, all taking him off the ballot shows is that CCP doesn't put up with trolls who outright state they will waste the time and effort of everyone involved in the process just to push an ideological point. I think its perfectly fair to expect those who put themselves forward for the CSM to actually be interested in doing CSM related things.

Like malcanis said, gevlons platform could be most simply represented by a 'none of the above' button.

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Iain Cariaba
#6 - 2016-01-16 03:51:14 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Jathlor wrote:
Title says it all.
I would like to put Gevlon Goblin back on the ballot.
A vote for Gevlon Goblin would be a vote against the sytem. I am interested in how many of the playerbase share his feelings and agree with his platform.
Not allowing the players to be able to vote for a change in the system is excessivly stifling.
A non vote does not have the same effect as a vote against the system. Non votes are written off as people not interested in the game enought to vote. Where as a vote against the system activly shows that the protesters are acctually invested and passionate about the game.

If CCP truly wanted the all opinions of its playerbase theyd put Gevlon Goblin back on the ballot, and take into consideration how much support his platform gets.
Taking him off the ballot only shows that in order to be heard by ccp you have to aggree with them.


No, all taking him off the ballot shows is that CCP doesn't put up with trolls who outright state they will waste the time and effort of everyone involved in the process just to push an ideological point. I think its perfectly fair to expect those who put themselves forward for the CSM to actually be interested in doing CSM related things.

Like malcanis said, gevlons platform could be most simply represented by a 'none of the above' button.

So, wanting to keep one of the biggest trolls in EvE off the CSM makes CCP trolls themselves?

Sure, that makes sense. Roll
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-01-22 17:13:05 UTC
Gevlon stated that, if elected, he had no intention to contribute anything to the CSM. He can do that just fine without running for CSM.
Jacques d'Orleans
#8 - 2016-01-30 19:06:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jacques d'Orleans
Jathlor wrote:
Non votes are written off as people not interested in the game enought to vote.


Nope, non voters are people who just do not give a shyte about this worthless CSM Crap, simple as that.

Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
Felix Judge
Regnum Ludorum
#9 - 2016-02-02 17:01:37 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
It would be infinitely more effective to request a "none of the above" option.

This would only indicate you do not like any of the candidates.
How could you indicate your disaproval of the system as such?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#10 - 2016-02-02 21:37:52 UTC
Felix Judge wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
It would be infinitely more effective to request a "none of the above" option.

This would only indicate you do not like any of the candidates.
How could you indicate your disaproval of the system as such?


Voting for a candidate with a plausible reform manifesto.

Why, you could even run yourself.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016