Ships & Modules

This is surely a bad thing, I mean it is funny if you are in the command destroyer, but anything this powerful you can activate on another ship and not get an aggression timer is bad IMO.

On a station undock or gate, to jump a bigger potentially more expensive or more vital ships(s) with no / little risk is broken imo, any other module that can something special like this in the game has a drawback as I understand it.


Bastion and Siege mode prevent warp / reps i think
Scripted HIC I think prevents Reps i think
Cyno prevents ship moving.

Jump a bunch of enemy ships 100km no drawback no aggression timer.



I am not against the mechanic I have been in gangs that have used it and is really fun, and had it used against me which caused an interesting fight in a Battlecruiser vs a command destroyer "CD2" ? and a "T3D" :)


TL DR; Aggression timer + some minor drawback for using AOE jump drive pl0x.

Give them a minimum distance from a structure before being able to use them.

I believe it is working as intended.

Are you prevented from jumping them if they have undock invulnerability? I thought that was one of the main complaints was that you could be jumped even while "invulnerable".

its time for the links haters to startr jumping ships off the station/gate

oh no my thread got downgraded from bad to terrible

So Stronk,



but if you think about it i never actually said that they are OP, I only mentioned the mechanic without aggression timer was a bad idea, so your reply to this thread is not only as you self proclaimed it "BAD", it is also stupid.

I see yesterday a battleship that got jumped off a station

The Command Destroyer jumped it's gang that was 100km off the undock to zero on undock, then within what seemed about 2 seconds another command destroyer in that gang jumped the Battleship and all fleetmates 100km away and destroyed the battleship, who had just broken invuln to align warp to an undock bookmark it turns out.

I have seen this happen a lot now in low sec and i think it even has a name for the tactic: "Frog Tongue"ing a battleship.

where you chain a jump to the undock with a second jump spooling to jump everyone back.



Now one counter is to scram the command destroyer, that is a long lock time for ships bigger than a destroyer, but as none of this sets them aggressed or suspect the only thing this will do it get your ship wrecked by station / gate guns.

If the trick fails the first time they are free to reset and try again.


PS: Leonardo Adami Fair enough just pulling your chain, no hard feelings, and have a great christmas holiday do you still play I dont see an active killboard for that toon.

yeah pls add at least a weapons timer.

I love the new command destroyers, but chaining them is kind of broken. They sit 100 off undock and wait for something to undock. Once they have their target one actives to drags fleet with, but before the fleet has jumped with the first command desi the second one activated his jump. First on lands on target ship and well before the target has time to react the second comman desi has pulled it off station with the fleet in tow.

To me this is kinda broken. I know it is awesome tactic to use on the enemy, but when you undock from your station and you lost invuln you can be jumped 100km off undock this is broken. Maybe to be jumped off a station you need a weapons timer? Maybe there should be a module/rig with drawbacks you can fit to make you invulnerable to being jumped? I don't know the solution, but this chaining to undock and off with target ships is broken and without counter.

Until CCP fixes this or issues some statement about it I will happily be using this and likely be the victim of it. EVE is a game that needs counters to everything and atm I see no hard counter beyond undocking with a capital to check undock before taking out subcaps.