Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I would like to see a purely drone boat focused BS.

Can fit 1 drone control unit per level.
Has 250 BW allowing you to launch 10 heavy/sentry
However, the ship starts with a standard 125BW and has a bonus of
+25 BW per fitted control unit.
This is to keep someone from getting utility and using a flight of 5 geckos.
Large drone hold capable of carrying many different drone.

No drone damage bonus, but perhaps a tracking and/or control range bonus to make up for the lack of high slots.

What role does it fill?
None

What niche does it cover?
None

What issues does it address?
None

What the point?
Because it sounds fun and it's a damn video game....

Yes, but those other boats get increased damage through on-board guns/missiles.
Some of which also get bonuses to guns. Nestor, Rattlesnake, and others get weapons bonuses on top of drones for a potential of insane dps.

With 10 Ogre II, at all skills V with 4 drone damage amps, you're looking at 1060 dps.

It's not much compared to lots of other ships, but it's entertaining.

No if you want more dps from drones do it by making the ones you have stronger not by adding more there is a radon we are doing away with +5 drones per ship even with capitals

Not entirely true.

CCP is changing how caps work and how fighters work.

Instead of one per level, you have several within a group and either increased groups, and/or groups of fighters with more drones within the group.

It doesn't change the fact that they still field a crap ton of drones.

basically a hi-sec carrier? pls god no sentries.

the +1 drone control unit per level makes this ship very weak until you have it trained to high levels. If you must, just give it a role bonus of +5 drones and think of two better per level bonuses.

I like drones, but this ship will probably obsolete the domi and rattler.

We need a Sentient Pirate drone faction with drone-based frigate, cruiser and battleship.

If and only if it's drone bay is no more than 50m3 greater than the total bandwidth meaning that while you can field 10 drones you only have 1-2 replacements. This would make these ships strong skirmishers but could quickly have their dps taken away without the ability to replace it.

Yes, because the game is just littered with those...

I'd rather see 8 drones. 10 seems like too much.


Dominix, rebalanced for drones

4 High Slots, 3 Turret Hardpoints (-2 high slots, -3 turret hardpoints)
5 Mid Slots, 7 Low Slots
200mbit/sec bandwidth, 1000m3 drone bay space (+75mbit/sec, +625m3)

6000MW Powergrid (-4000MW)
450Tf CPU (-150Tf)

Capacitor Recharge Time: 1400s (+300s)
Max Recharge Rate: 10.7GJ/s (-2.9GJ/s)


Gallente Battleship skill bonuses:
5% Increased Heavy and Sentry Drone Damage and Hitpoints per level
10% Increased Armor Repair Amount per level

Role Bonuses:
+25km Drone Control Range
+3 Max Drones Controlled
-25% Drone Tracking





I took off a lot of highs. Don't need to give it drone control units. I'd like to see Battleship-sized drone control units added to the game, but in a pinch this works better than forcing the player to use an expensive capital ship module.

I removed a lot of powergrid along with some CPU and capacitor to make up for what other Gallente battleships have to sacrifice for their weapons. It still has plenty of CPU, and well enough powergrid and capacitor to do a hefty armor tank.

I gave it +10% armor repair amount instead of +7.5% because I believe 7.5% is too low and that all shield boost and armor repair skill bonuses should be bumped up to 10%. It is the hit point bonuses that should be at 7.5%. The rep bonuses are the most finicky because those ships have the lowest effective hit points and must rely on a heavy income of hit points to balance the quick rate at which they drop. These ships are most vulnerable to blapping, so they should be the strongest against steady fire. 7.5% hit point bonus still lends to the hit point bonused ship having the highest effective hit points, but the resist bonused ship still gets the advantage of balancing rep and hit point bonus. Possibly hit point bonuses could remain at 10%, but rep bonuses definitely need to go up to 10%.

Lastly, I increased its drone control range to make it stand out from other drone ships, and decreased its drone tracking both to make it feel more like a battleship and to prevent it from overly dominating small ships with its huge flights of small drones. Note that its drones only get a 25% total hit point bonus but it can fit several backup flights. It gets 10 effective large drones or 8 effective medium or small drones. Only larges get any hit point bonus at all.

200mbit/sec bandwidth, 1000m3 drone bay space (+75mbit/sec, +625m3)

Nooooooooooooo
Holy crap is that op, this thing is a mini carrier with those stats alone. I doubt I'd even be okay with that if the thing didn't even have guns. 5 full flights of 8 heavy drones each is insane. The only reason to dump out more than 5 drones would be to act like how current attack BCs do. It would be a heavy hitter with lighter shield/armor/hull and likely little to no drone bay above it's bandwidth.

Also "5% Increased Heavy and Sentry Drone Damage and Hitpoints per level" should focus on mobile drones or at least heavies, we don't need another situation like the ishtar. Also with 7 low slots +10% to rep is a bit on the strong side as well. I would actually much rather see 5% increase to drone damage, speed and HP per level along with it's normal 7.5% rep.
With these changes there is no need to nerf the tracking either.