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Arno Gunnarr
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-12-13 21:32:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Arno Gunnarr
o7


So I'm new to EVE lore and haven't quite understood how pod pilots are immortal. Is it just by replacing the body with a clone after clone after clone? Or by other scientific means? I came across an article today citing the possibility of immortality amongst us in real life: FOREVAR

How exactly are capsuleers immortal?
Is there a lore book or lore wiki instead of the typical EVE Wiki's? If I could have a link?

Thanks



AG


edit: Link doesn't work or something... http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45654223/ns/today-today_health/#.TufCdGO5O7g

Nooblet
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#2 - 2011-12-13 22:02:14 UTC
Arno Gunnarr wrote:
So I'm new to EVE lore and haven't quite understood how pod pilots are immortal. Is it just by replacing the body with a clone after clone after clone?


"Immortal" is a word used by non-capsuleers and "planet bounds" not quite understanding what being a capsuleer entails - no, capsuleers are not biologically immortal, as far as I understand capsuleers are at the core as any other human, and will eventually die of old age. Pod technology combined with cloning technology means even if our ship and pod are destroyed, we will survive - being immortal in a sense.
So basicly as you said it - being replaced with a clone after a clone after a clone, we can't really be killed while we are in space - what I remember from pre-Incarna ramp up, pod pilots actually don't really like to be outside of their pod much because that's when we are at our weakest and most defenseless state. Not sure if there's any lore on if capsuleers can be "perma-killed" when caught out of their pods, but I'm sure someone knows.
Arno Gunnarr
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-12-14 02:04:54 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
Arno Gunnarr wrote:
So I'm new to EVE lore and haven't quite understood how pod pilots are immortal. Is it just by replacing the body with a clone after clone after clone?


"Immortal" is a word used by non-capsuleers and "planet bounds" not quite understanding what being a capsuleer entails - no, capsuleers are not biologically immortal....

I used this as a reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jfFKSIqkvM @ :30

But yes, I meant immortality from aging.

Nooblet
Rina Asanari
CitadeI
#4 - 2011-12-14 08:04:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Rina Asanari
Hmmm... Actually, if there is a capsuleer getting past his prime (clone's biological age past 35 or 40, whatever limit known medicine and the clone's durability may set), there may be even some sort of rite where he heads out to selfdestruct or into an altercation he cannot win... just to wake up in a new, younger clone?

Worth a thought. And maybe there are some other 'semi-traditions' or habits exclusively for capsuleers which may seem to be incomprehensible to mere mortals..
Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#5 - 2011-12-14 10:59:38 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
[quote=Arno Gunnarr]. Not sure if there's any lore on if capsuleers can be "perma-killed" when caught out of their pods, but I'm sure someone knows.


According to a chronicle in an issue of the EVE Magazine, they can be "saved" outside their pod.

Apparently these stories are approved by CCP but it just seems a little far fetched. Unless it's some massive technology to do with the station. But no doubt it's similar to what we'll see in DUST 514. Either way, it makes good drama. :)

"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."

-Cold Wind
Aedeal
Bangarang Inc
#6 - 2011-12-14 15:41:41 UTC
It's not immortality in the sense that the body never dies, it's that the mind can be transferred to a new body if done in a certain way. The lore says that a pod contains the neural scanners required to transfer the mind to the clone, so if you die outside of that then you are perma-dead. With the advent of Incarna/DUST though, you can be cloned outside your pod. If there's lore on this I don't know it.
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-12-15 08:23:09 UTC
Basically this neural scanner is supposed to 'copy' the brain at the time of death, so this copy can be sent to a cloning facility and 'pasted' into the clone's brain.

That way a new you wakes up, with the exact same experiences and life story of the you that just died.

The new capsuleer is still a different person I guess, so when you died, you die, only the entity that is you lives on.
Arno Gunnarr
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-12-15 23:36:27 UTC
Kiandoshia wrote:
Basically this neural scanner is supposed to 'copy' the brain at the time of death, so this copy can be sent to a cloning facility and 'pasted' into the clone's brain.

That way a new you wakes up, with the exact same experiences and life story of the you that just died.

The new capsuleer is still a different person I guess, so when you died, you die, only the entity that is you lives on.


Makes sense. Thanks.

Nooblet