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Arla Sarain
#41 - 2015-12-29 10:15:28 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Roy Henry wrote:
Plans are already in motion for 110% control. This is the moment we have been waiting for. We were unable to retake pava or intakki thanks to squid autz dominance, and were compltelty helpless to defend aivonen, agoze, iges, innia, fliet, or aubunall.

Things will be different now.



With 4 way war, i suggest Huola as the first step towards 110%.

Is this a gallente circle jerk yet?


Let's count to 3 and take a deep breath.

Galmil FW LP store is worth more than the other races. Fact.

That's why you have all the people.

People also flock to easy mode. (c) grr goons

You wouldn't believe how many russki farmeri come to FW, join GlamourMil and shiptoast in local on Calmil like they own the place.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#42 - 2015-12-29 10:19:50 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Roy Henry wrote:
Plans are already in motion for 110% control. This is the moment we have been waiting for. We were unable to retake pava or intakki thanks to squid autz dominance, and were compltelty helpless to defend aivonen, agoze, iges, innia, fliet, or aubunall.

Things will be different now.



With 4 way war, i suggest Huola as the first step towards 110%.

Is this a gallente circle jerk yet?


Let's count to 3 and take a deep breath.

Galmil FW LP store is worth more than the other races. Fact.

That's why you have all the people.


Spoken like a true nullbear. LP stores dont just become more valuable than other LP stores by accident. Our store is often better by the nature of its difficulty to farm and the smaller numbers farming it. If we had numbers because people came to farm it would result in LP being devalued.

Yet another example of people reading numbers and thinking that imparts knowledge on them, as per cearain.
Arla Sarain
#43 - 2015-12-29 11:10:50 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Roy Henry wrote:
Plans are already in motion for 110% control. This is the moment we have been waiting for. We were unable to retake pava or intakki thanks to squid autz dominance, and were compltelty helpless to defend aivonen, agoze, iges, innia, fliet, or aubunall.

Things will be different now.



With 4 way war, i suggest Huola as the first step towards 110%.

Is this a gallente circle jerk yet?


Let's count to 3 and take a deep breath.

Galmil FW LP store is worth more than the other races. Fact.

That's why you have all the people.


Spoken like a true nullbear. LP stores dont just become more valuable than other LP stores by accident. Our store is often better by the nature of its difficulty to farm and the smaller numbers farming it. If we had numbers because people came to farm it would result in LP being devalued.

Yet another example of people reading numbers and thinking that imparts knowledge on them, as per cearain.

FED LP store still has better items.
Navy Webs, drone tracking computers, better, more prolific hulls.

Similar with Minmatar - Shield Extenders with low PG and faction tackle mods are generally a very powerful investment and Min/Gal have the strongest ones whilst being pretty affordable.

When was the last time someone went "I need me some Caldari scrams" or "I want a hookbill".

The value of the LP store doesn't just scale with ISK/LP.
A Ingus
Purveyors of Uber Research Valuables and Ships
#44 - 2015-12-29 12:54:56 UTC
Arla Sarain wrote:
FED LP store still has better items.
Navy Webs, drone tracking computers, better, more prolific hulls.

Similar with Minmatar - Shield Extenders with low PG and faction tackle mods are generally a very powerful investment and Min/Gal have the strongest ones whilst being pretty affordable.

When was the last time someone went "I need me some Caldari scrams" or "I want a hookbill".

The value of the LP store doesn't just scale with ISK/LP.

The grass is always greener . . . ? What?
ivona fly
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#45 - 2015-12-29 15:36:29 UTC  |  Edited by: ivona fly
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Roy Henry wrote:
Plans are already in motion for 110% control. This is the moment we have been waiting for. We were unable to retake pava or intakki thanks to squid autz dominance, and were compltelty helpless to defend aivonen, agoze, iges, innia, fliet, or aubunall.

Things will be different now.



With 4 way war, i suggest Huola as the first step towards 110%.

Is this a gallente circle jerk yet?


Let's count to 3 and take a deep breath.

Galmil FW LP store is worth more than the other races. Fact.

That's why you have all the people.


Spoken like a true nullbear. LP stores dont just become more valuable than other LP stores by accident. Our store is often better by the nature of its difficulty to farm and the smaller numbers farming it. If we had numbers because people came to farm it would result in LP being devalued.

Yet another example of people reading numbers and thinking that imparts knowledge on them, as per cearain.



See what you done there Crosi is you forgot to put "Fact." at the end of it. that instantly makes something that is not a Fact in fact a Fact. Big smile


I agree though if you can run the L4 missions in a bomber for example nearly risk free (though i think they balanced this recently), this is what devalues LP.

I ran the minmatar ones on another toon with a bomber and would rack up a million LP very fast, til i got too bored of it. ~

I think that is why at some points you can buy firetail for 7m isk


Hookbills are used a lot in FW as a range control rocket brawler., or dual ASB and are pretty strong. thier cruiser hulls though i see less.
Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#46 - 2015-12-29 16:04:44 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Roy Henry wrote:
Plans are already in motion for 110% control. This is the moment we have been waiting for. We were unable to retake pava or intakki thanks to squid autz dominance, and were compltelty helpless to defend aivonen, agoze, iges, innia, fliet, or aubunall.

Things will be different now.



With 4 way war, i suggest Huola as the first step towards 110%.

Is this a gallente circle jerk yet?


Let's count to 3 and take a deep breath.

Galmil FW LP store is worth more than the other races. Fact.

That's why you have all the people.



While we do have many items, their profit is altered by the scarcity of officer tags. They are expensive, making omni's, webs, (for mods ain't that it?) a rather low investment return. Much of this has to do with how FW missions are run and also the low pop rate of normal missions against caldari; you get wet more Amarr tags than anything.

Just need some balance on ballistic controls, throw in some State ECM mods, and add the new missile mods into state versions.

Ship-wise, I don't think anyone can complain. Sell navy ravens, ospreys, augs, whatever.. Many of the ships are good. And please consider the data cores that only your own faction have avail. They are cheap and sell high in other places; learn how to wait on sell orders.
Fourteen Maken
Karma and Causality
#47 - 2015-12-30 03:57:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Fourteen Maken
As far as ships go the Navy Raven is the biggest cashout in the sprot lp store, but it doesn't get used much in pvp so it doesn't create steady demand like a pvp ship would. Also not much use to someone who wants to use some of their LP in the warzone like the other factions can. Our options: Hookbill, Navy Caracal, and Navy Osprey were way behind the Gallente options until recently.

galmil have been 1 or 2 tiers in front cashing out maybe double or even triple the lp and still get around the same or better ISK/LP says there's something wrong. It's got nothing to do with farming or missions either, there's almost 3 times as much Gallente LP getting cashed out via ships, the Navy Vexor alone cashed out more LP than the entire Caldari line up combined for the period I looked at.

This was before the changes to the Navy Osprey, Hookbill, and battlecruisers so there should be more demand for calmil lp now. Navy Drake is pretty decent, Hookbill got a buff, and the Navy Osprey is one of the best navy cruisers after the december changes so things have definitely improved but there's still a big gap there.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#48 - 2015-12-30 08:52:14 UTC
It says that cal mil LP was extensively farmed by a number of huge nullbear alliances in the past and countless russian alts leading to a vast reserve of LP which constantly deflates the isk/LP.

Even when we are in tier 3 and you are in tier 1, you still often beat us in daily VP numbers. I would expect availability of LP to play a bigger role in the value of LP than any other factor.

Having a quick look at the statepro LP store shows a good number of high volume items with 1100-1400 isk/LP. Which considering the volume of LP being generated by cal mil is pretty fair imo.
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#49 - 2015-12-30 13:06:09 UTC
Shhhhhhhhh!

Don't tell people that the Osprey Navy is fairly competitive on grid and in the marketplace.

Ooopsies! Lol
sytaqe violacea
Choir of morning
#50 - 2015-12-30 16:39:31 UTC  |  Edited by: sytaqe violacea
By the way, I noticed Yogsoloth & BillyBulb turned to Calmil from Minmil. Anyone know what happened?
SmokinJs Arthie
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#51 - 2015-12-30 16:44:24 UTC
Silverbackyererse wrote:
Shhhhhhhhh!

Don't tell people that the Osprey Navy is fairly competitive on grid and in the marketplace.

Ooopsies! Lol



You and your logic, no wonder you left Cal Mil.
Fourteen Maken
Karma and Causality
#52 - 2015-12-30 22:29:18 UTC
Silverbackyererse wrote:
Shhhhhhhhh!

Don't tell people that the Osprey Navy is fairly competitive on grid and in the marketplace.

Ooopsies! Lol









it's a secret?

*checks killboard stats*

and it really is a secret... wtf people?
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#53 - 2016-01-12 10:53:20 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
It says that cal mil LP was extensively farmed by a number of huge nullbear alliances in the past and countless russian alts leading to a vast reserve of LP which constantly deflates the isk/LP.

Even when we are in tier 3 and you are in tier 1, you still often beat us in daily VP numbers. I would expect availability of LP to play a bigger role in the value of LP than any other factor.

Having a quick look at the statepro LP store shows a good number of high volume items with 1100-1400 isk/LP. Which considering the volume of LP being generated by cal mil is pretty fair imo.


It's almost impossible to take you seriously when you abuse a coward fit garmur that you lose, repeatedly. In combination with your links alt you want to call me a nullbear? You really should know better.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#54 - 2016-01-12 11:36:35 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
It says that cal mil LP was extensively farmed by a number of huge nullbear alliances in the past and countless russian alts leading to a vast reserve of LP which constantly deflates the isk/LP.

Even when we are in tier 3 and you are in tier 1, you still often beat us in daily VP numbers. I would expect availability of LP to play a bigger role in the value of LP than any other factor.

Having a quick look at the statepro LP store shows a good number of high volume items with 1100-1400 isk/LP. Which considering the volume of LP being generated by cal mil is pretty fair imo.


It's almost impossible to take you seriously when you abuse a coward fit garmur that you lose, repeatedly. In combination with your links alt you want to call me a nullbear? You really should know better.


So because i sometimes take outrageous risks against the odds in keeping with the purpose of using a kite, my simple supply/demand explanation of fundamental economic activity is to be disregarded?

Hmmm,ok lol.

Id have hoped all that time chaining belts would give you time to construct a more coherent response. I guess there is a cognitive bottleneck.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#55 - 2016-01-12 12:40:01 UTC
Linked Garmur.

"outrageous risks"

"against the odds"
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#56 - 2016-01-12 13:10:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Linked Garmur.

"outrageous risks"

"against the odds"


"Warping into multiple dozens of hostiles at zero on a regular basis with a ship and capsule worth more than their entire fleet many times over"

I dont see the other handful of max garmur pilots from 9POTA doing that. Why wouldnt they if there were no risk?
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#57 - 2016-01-12 13:13:19 UTC
Ok, I laughed.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#58 - 2016-01-12 16:56:57 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Ok, I laughed.


I guess thats the best way to get over being a bitter squid :)
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#59 - 2016-01-12 17:11:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Ria Nieyli
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Ok, I laughed.


I guess thats the best way to get over being a bitter squid :)


Stay free, random EVE player.
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#60 - 2016-01-13 01:14:25 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
You really should know better.


So because i sometimes take outrageous risks against the odds in keeping with the purpose of using a kite, my simple supply/demand explanation of fundamental economic activity is to be disregarded?

Hmmm,ok lol.

Id have hoped all that time chaining belts would give you time to construct a more coherent response. I guess there is a cognitive bottleneck.


You talk about risk but you have a childs understanding of it. I risk towers worth billions per month each whether I undock or not. Simple inaction on my part is more risky than your garmurs.

You're confusing a reflection for the nights sky: whelping a frigate worth more than some battleships isn't impressive.