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Would you recommend EVE to people? Why?
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Leeluvv
United Caldari Navy
United Caldari Space Command.
#41 - 2015-12-18 15:20:34 UTC
Mister Ripley wrote:
I would if I could instantly play with my friends instead of spending 2 hours on settings so we can actauly see the same thing in market and space.

I tried it a few times and the result was always the same. Cry

  • Tell them what to buy is not possible with default market settings.
  • Tell them what to shoot is not possible with default overview settings.
  • Tell them where to find something in the UI was not possible wth the default settings
  • etc


The other part are people that think "facebook games" are the same thing as "real games", I don't even talk to them about EVE. Big smile

And if someone from CCP is reading thins.

DON'T FUNKING DARE!

It's already a really narrow line you are walking with Festival Ammo and Snowball Launchers and **** for AUR. You will never reach millions of players, but if you give some marketing ******** enough room you will destroy the game.


UMAD BRO?
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#42 - 2015-12-18 16:35:45 UTC
Everyone I had given a trial account quit out of frustration or would not sub because it was $15 a month when they were used to F2P games like War Thunder and League of Legends.

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Leila Meurtrier
Why Am I Not Surprised
#43 - 2015-12-18 16:51:36 UTC
I wouldn't recommend EVE to anyone because I don't want to be one to be blamed for their own mistake of forgeting that game is just a game and shouldn't take place of life, job or studies.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#44 - 2015-12-18 19:12:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
It is a violent, dark, dangerous, scary place where people ridicule, lie, cheat, steal, and back-stab you.

That's why I don't have friends outside of EVE. It is safer.
Gneeznow
Ship spinners inc
#45 - 2015-12-18 20:36:54 UTC
No, because it's dying.

Also because they'll join an empire corp to learn the ropes, get war decced endlessly if that corp goes over 10 people, die repeatedly to linked-out brick tank t3s on a trade hub somewhere and then quit anyway.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#46 - 2015-12-18 20:48:01 UTC
Mister Ripley wrote:
I would if I could instantly play with my friends instead of spending 2 hours on settings so we can actauly see the same thing in market and space.

I tried it a few times and the result was always the same. Cry

  • Tell them what to buy is not possible with default market settings.
  • Tell them what to shoot is not possible with default overview settings.
  • Tell them where to find something in the UI was not possible wth the default settings
  • etc


The other part are people that think "facebook games" are the same thing as "real games", I don't even talk to them about EVE. Big smile

And if someone from CCP is reading thins.

DON'T FUNKING DARE!

It's already a really narrow line you are walking with Festival Ammo and Snowball Launchers and **** for AUR. You will never reach millions of players, but if you give some marketing ******** enough room you will destroy the game.



um, you do know you cna share your overview with yoru friends now right? so you set it up, save it, drag it to a chat window and they cna add it there overview. takes then about 3 seconds.

telling them what to buy is also easy... make a ship fitting, drag and drop it to the chat window, and iirc there is a 'buy all' button now (note i coudl be utterly wrong on this point, i'm a bit tired)

or you just drag the items to the chat window, they click the links, and chose find in market from the menu in the upper left and buy. would take you and them maybe 20 min to buy and set up a ship.

So your complaints are invalid.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#47 - 2015-12-18 20:49:15 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
I no longer recommend EVE.

It annoys people.
They don't have the patience to skill up to do some of the stuff that I do.
They find it slow and boring.
I think EVE is on a downward slope, it is losing depth to be less complex, which bores the veterans and still won't attract the plebs.


i disagree. I think this time next year we will be on the rebound slope going up.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#48 - 2015-12-18 20:54:26 UTC
Depends on the person.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#49 - 2015-12-18 21:17:08 UTC
Vast majority of people dont want to play a game like Eve because they have to wait, think and figure things out for themselves in a way thatll make them fail more times than succeed. IMO this literally weeds out 90% of the school system educated "followers", "nonthinkers" and regurgitaters that come out of those systems. Most people want fun and for them fun means winning at everything instantly and easily. Level 90 in 2-3 weeks type players that dont actually contribute to anything or build anything. And when that reality sets in that OMG its gonna take SOOO LOOONG!! to do things they just instinctively give up and go do something where they can feel good about themselves.

So no I dont recommend Eve to people anymore. Id love to but the majority of society these days are already walking zombies and Im always reminded of that great line from the movie.... "I see dead people!!" And that isnt something CCP can change imo.

I have always loved the sink or swim mentality of Eve. Most just dip a toe in and say its too cold to go swimming at all.


Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#50 - 2015-12-18 21:50:10 UTC
Persephone Alleile wrote:
Max Muni wrote:
No, the game is for a very specific type of techie person, and EXTREMELY boring for anyone else.
I don't know if this is necessarily true. I don't consider myself to be a techie at all, it's more the sci-fi elements and the open world allowing me to create my own story that appeal to me.
Hands up if you work or were qualified in a technical degree, such as engineering, mathematics or computer science.

o/

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
lost packet
Alpha Flight
#51 - 2015-12-19 17:20:27 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Hands up if you work or were qualified in a technical degree, such as engineering, mathematics or computer science.

o/


Help you get started Jen, o7

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#52 - 2015-12-19 17:36:38 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
I no longer recommend EVE.

It annoys people.
They don't have the patience to skill up to do some of the stuff that I do.
They find it slow and boring.
I think EVE is on a downward slope, it is losing depth to be less complex, which bores the veterans and still won't attract the plebs.


I prefer longevity (depth) over fast pace. Depth is EVE endgame that doesnt really end anywhere. If CCP will crumble and give way to "faster, faster" people, they will soon disapear, and EVE with them. Shocked

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MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#53 - 2015-12-19 18:05:37 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Quote:
One observation that caught my attention was that DICE relied too much on the forums for feedback and that a better system was needed. The solution that DICE came up with was the Net Promoter Score.


Sigh, the death of one of my loves of Eve, and the return of my nemesis from my Insurance company days.

I always recommend Eve to people. The only problem i run into is that people are more tempted towards the instant gratification games where you can buy endgame gear and a lvl gorillion character from the cash shop, or games where you can 720 backflip no-scope headshot a guy off the eiffel tower and then land in the pilot seat of a jet and bomb a freaking shark.

Now, if CCP were to bring Legion and Valkyrie to the table as well ( you know, having all games playable across a single platform and all that jazz), there would be a much better draw for newer players as you would be satisfying the FPS/Flight itch as well as the sandbox itch.. but alas we digress into repeated bludgeoning of a deceased equine with that, especially if we were to want them to be integrated into Eve in order to compete with SC when its released in 2024 [bludgeoning intensifies].

Eve is a sandbox of epic proportions where there is room for the good, the bad, the in-between, and god forbid.. the bloody neutrals.

EVE: Legion copyright was dropped months ago.

Something tells me that with how all CCP responses to Valkyrie questions make sure to point out they have no plans to connect Valkyrie to EVE, it's unlikely the EVE Universe concept is still something they're pushing toward as much as they were in 2014.

That's actually part of why all of us on the Dust 514 forums have been pushing #portDust514 on both forums and all the social media that CCP uses to try and show solidarity in our interest for news on the future of the game, since after the Legion announcement CCP's new policy in regard to that game is to tell us absolutely nothing until whatever they're currently working on is done.

Back on topic, I recommend EVE Online to people who say they love online gaming but want a world where what they do matters more. The funny thing about big ticket titles like Destiny is that after the fresh new content has been played and the game goes back into that kind of lull between updates, it's those players that I most frequently hear saying they wish there was "more".

Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!

Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
Oxide Ammar
#54 - 2015-12-19 18:16:48 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
I no longer recommend EVE.

It annoys people.
They don't have the patience to skill up to do some of the stuff that I do.
They find it slow and boring.
I think EVE is on a downward slope, it is losing depth to be less complex, which bores the veterans and still won't attract the plebs.


This.

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Khana Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2015-12-19 22:49:07 UTC
Yes I would recommend it, because it is the Grey Poupon of gaming.
Torothin
Crimson Dawn Enterprises
#56 - 2015-12-20 01:35:56 UTC
12 years of game play. 12 years of entertainment. Is that not reason.enough?

Replay ability. ...
Paul Pohl
blue media poetry
#57 - 2015-12-20 02:55:23 UTC
Torothin wrote:
12 years of game play. 12 years of entertainment. Is that not reason.enough?

Replay ability. ...


Yes but have you won?
Are you on the CSM?
Does Crossing Zabras and Podside talk about you?
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF FOZZIESOV?
blah... etc... bah... meh...

I suspect we would recommend the game for the same reasons....
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#58 - 2015-12-20 03:58:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
Maria Sayans as new CCO.

Is she one of the Super Sayans? I wonder what her power level is.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Torothin
Crimson Dawn Enterprises
#59 - 2015-12-20 13:13:04 UTC
Paul Pohl wrote:
Torothin wrote:
12 years of game play. 12 years of entertainment. Is that not reason.enough?

Replay ability. ...


Yes but have you won?
Are you on the CSM?
Does Crossing Zabras and Podside talk about you?
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF FOZZIESOV?
blah... etc... bah... meh...

I suspect we would recommend the game for the same reasons....



Here in Fountain different small entities control different portions of space. Thus leading to more small.scale engagements. The game is great right now and reminds me of how it was in 2009.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#60 - 2015-12-20 15:38:53 UTC
Oxide Ammar wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
I no longer recommend EVE.

It annoys people.
They don't have the patience to skill up to do some of the stuff that I do.
They find it slow and boring.
I think EVE is on a downward slope, it is losing depth to be less complex, which bores the veterans and still won't attract the plebs.
This.
I will say that I am throwing a PLEX at an alt and raising it a little at a time to run missions and such in High Sec, this is in order to meet new players and help them.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.