Missions & Complexes

SO 180-270 mil an hour doing burners?

I wont even consider anything less than video evidence at this point.

By people with high SP characters and lot of SP in frigate skills that keep a batch of blinged out special ships each used for one specific burner type, run almost all the burner versions and reject pretty much everything except burners and trash their agent standing down to almost neg two in the process.

Can people achieve that figure ? Certainly.

Do many people have the skills/ISK/motivation ? No not really. Most people are content to skill up and fit ships for a few burners to add a bit of an isk boost and leave it at that.

Needless to say certain troll type entities are using the fact that a handful of people (a few hundred players at max maybe far less than that) can and occasionally do get that ISK to push for a nerfing/removal of all missions for all players in hisec.

This is a great question, and the answer really depends on your playing style. There are a few methods to running Lv4s:

1. Shoot everything, minimal salvage. This is where you're primarily going after the bounties and LP and salvage as a secondary consideration. You'll loot the implants from Scarlet, Zazz, Damsel and Angels.
2. Shoot and loot everything. This is somewhat self-explanatory, although there are a number of missions where salvaging is actually counter-productive (anything with Guristas, for example). This is where your Marauder comes in.
3. Blitz. This is where you run Lv4s with the intention of completing the mission objectives only - with the focus on LP. An enhanced version of this that focuses on Burners is what most players now do (see the guide from Anize Oramara).

If your play style focuses on non-Burner missions, you'll probably find that all three methods are reasonably close in terms of ISK/hour. You can improve your overall ISK potential by adopting all three play styles when applicable (as opposed to just focusing on one):

• You blitz the missions that you can to basically crank through missions to earn towards Storyline missions. Anything that needs Kernite is an instant 20m ISK payday, and anything against one of the opposing Empire Factions is easily a 50-75m bonus with salvage and tags.
• You shoot everything where you can get excellent bounties and typically don't loot (these are missions like Assault or the Extravaganzas). You loot implants (Scarlet, Zazmatazz, Damsel) and missions where there's good salvage (Beserk).
• You run the occasional Burner mission that gives you a quick ISK/LP payout. I like the Team Burner ones because you can run these with a universal Garmur, so your investment is <100m ISK.
• You run the missions that tank your standings with opposing Empires (Enemies), because these can easily make you 200-250m ISK by completing the whole series.

With respect to your question about the Golem, I've found that it's the best all-around Marauder. Some players prefer the Vargur but honestly you can't go wrong either way. If you're running in Amarr space the Paladin is probably your best bet. Last on the list is the Kronos. The Rattlesnake has a lot of potential DPS (emphasis on potential). Without the right fit and close to V skills, you'll be lucky to get half that. You can run it with torpedoes and Geckos and get 1800 DPS on paper, but you'll spend half the mission just trying to get within range of targets. Once you drop down to Sentries and cruise missiles, you'll be just over 1300-1400 DPS - and to get decent damage application you're going to sacrifice a lot of things like how quickly you can get between and around missions.

How can you get 1300 DPS using T1 ammo?

You use Faction ammo, especially for blitzing. Hail will get you just under 1500 dps without implants.

You're a couple months behind. I actually do have 3h of recorded footage where I get my normal 250mill/h but I just can't afford to upload it unfortunately (3rd world internet yey). That said here is the original thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=451140&find=unread . I can provide you the how in the guide and the figures as proof in that thread but weather or not people believe me is no longer important as it's now accepted as fact and the basis for many nerf hi-sec threads..

What's the actual DPS @60km though?

What's the actual DPS @60km though?

How can you get 1300 DPS using T1 ammo?

Its only accepted by those who believe actual proof is not required, many of those believe in santa and the tooth fairy

Dunno, has never come up.