EVE General Discussion

Technically the goons did take over the CSM, get a bunch of CCP staff to put their mains in their ranks. Outright publish a tolerance/pro- goon botting policy WITH CCP employees in the alliance. God knows what other corruption CCP has been given to for their 'bros'

The only other alliance to do that to my knowledge was BoB, who in much the same way had Dev membership spawn t2 BPOs for them (t-20 incident)

Excellent post, and here I thought you were a troll. Go figure.

A lot of the posts here make me chuckle, especially the ones doing thing like referring to the NC in the present tense and claiming that alliances that don't deserve credit do.

The only alliances to ever impact the game immensely have been Goons, BoB, PL and the Russians, in their various incarnations and factions.

Everything else is background noise.

What odd metrics to use .. kind of limits the options.

CVA (and Co.) is the only alliance that has ever managed to civilize a large swath of space (civilized does not include being raving psychotics who shot on sight unless people are wearing the right colour underwear).

ASCN for being the first alliance to show the power of cooperation. They even managed to beat BoB's slave horde and got the first Titan .. something Molle saw that as a personal insult so the horde went and took all their stuff for the transgression.

BoB/Goons for the epic Love-Hate relationship that brought Eve what four or five years of almost non-stop cluster wide war.

Personal Note: PL are the stereotype skinheads of Eve .. they rampage through the sandbox with their army-boots and kick sand in every ones faces after smashing their castles "just because". Damn good at it though.

Goonswarm they overwhelemed impossible.

Most successful is, imo, Band of Brothers. Alliances come and go, but I didn't like how BoB ended. But it accellerated their end anyhow.

I think Roadkill had great success. Controlling whole region of Geminate for over a year and booting anyone from it was awesome. Granted its crap region, but still! I still remember the "final" battle that sealed the fate of RK's end and I lost 5-6 vultures in the same battle to defend some strategic POS.

LMAO

stopping the DRF pet deathball cold in its tracks after they annihilated the NC without any meaningful resistance is a whole lot more impressive than sov-warfaring a region to the ground. And of course, the Goons have done that a few dozen times too...

triumvirate has been inactive for years and is still no2 on battleclinic iirc

PL are truly amazing at what they do, but as they refuse to take part in the nulsec game they are basically chickening out of consequences and reprisals, ie logging of with no risk does not equal winning.

Most famous is probably BoB and Goons, there war was a staple of EVE for a few years, and very famous mostly due to the enormous forum PR machine that was on both sides. Goons eventually beat BoB, then in a real irony basically became BoB mk2.

A few have mentioned CVA, they have/had done something unique granted, sticking with there whole nrds thing made there chosen area one of the most populated area's in nulsec a few years back, but they have also lost that area three times or so.

Who do I think is winning EVE, simple the Russians. Far as I know, they as a whole are the most unmovable block in eve, Some of the oldest alliances holding space for years and years, virtually untouched in so long. But saying that they suffer the same stagnant attitude of the big guns in that they wont attack another mega alliance.

Thats kinda the problem with who is truly winning EVE, none of the possible winners dare go against any of the other big ones, its all gone a bit stale cept for the occasional wtfpwn of some nobodies nothing is changing.

So need another mega war.

Rooks and Kings for the way they will stand against larger numbers. Just look how few members they have in the entire alliance - about 250 or so!

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