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This game is so damn hard

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#21 - 2015-12-14 17:11:29 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
You're a terrible troll, OP. At least HoleySheet provides some amusement value in See and Pee, rather than just trolling NCQ&A

So bad a troll that her threads quickly pack full of legitimately useful and solid advice.

To be fair she's no nevil .
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#22 - 2015-12-14 17:14:39 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
You're a terrible troll, OP. At least HoleySheet provides some amusement value in See and Pee, rather than just trolling NCQ&A

So bad a troll that her threads quickly pack full of legitimately useful and solid advice.

To be fair she's no nevil .




Good point


Solecist messaged me saying that the OP is a kind of protégé (albeit maybe not a fantastic one) - hence the outfit Lol

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#23 - 2015-12-14 17:17:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Oh be nice bumble, no need to out her like that!

Edit: and we aren't being trolled , we're being manipulated.

Important distinction Blink

And in all fairness she is both new to it and asking legitimate questions for others.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#24 - 2015-12-14 17:54:24 UTC
I'm always lovely, and a treat to bring home to your folks! :D

Not outing anyone really, just think it's actually quite nice to bring someone under your wing...and anyway, as you said, lots of helpful advice in the thread :)

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2015-12-14 20:19:53 UTC
sarab saeed

check wallet

Erin Oswell
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-12-14 23:23:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Erin Oswell
I know that feeling but yeah, starting out in low or null sec generally isn't a good idea as others have pointed out, you're just making yourself a bright bouncy ball for the locals to play with.

If you want to maximize your profits from mining make sure anomalies is checked in your scanner, this will show you Omber, Jaspet, Ice deposits etc which is more valuable but can be trickier to mine. As for rats train up your drone skills and fill your drone bay with some Hobgoblin's, warping to other belts whenever they show up will just waste time and ISK.

Most importantly, don't buy what you can't afford to loose!

Rules of Acquisition #13: "Anything worth doing is worth doing for money"

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#27 - 2015-12-14 23:30:21 UTC
Erin Oswell wrote:


Most importantly, don't buy what you can't afford to loose!

*Fly , don't Fly what you can't afford to lose.


Buy what ever the feck you want just don't have it in space if it's abrupt and violent dismantling would bankrupt you financially and/or emotionally
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2015-12-14 23:44:12 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Erin Oswell wrote:


Most importantly, don't buy what you can't afford to loose!

*Fly , don't Fly what you can't afford to lose.


Buy what ever the feck you want just don't have it in space if it's abrupt and violent dismantling would bankrupt you financially and/or emotionally



That extends to cargo, not just ships and modules.

If losing the current haul could make you rage quit then split it into smaller runs or just pay Red Frog to move it.

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2015-12-19 13:49:09 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
You're a terrible troll, OP. At least HoleySheet provides some amusement value in See and Pee, rather than just trolling NCQ&A

So bad a troll that her threads quickly pack full of legitimately useful and solid advice.

To be fair she's no nevil .


Nobody in EVE will ever beat that guy

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#30 - 2015-12-19 15:07:04 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
You're a terrible troll, OP. At least HoleySheet provides some amusement value in See and Pee, rather than just trolling NCQ&A

So bad a troll that her threads quickly pack full of legitimately useful and solid advice.

To be fair she's no nevil .


Nobody in EVE will ever beat that guy

Hmmmm pretty sure I would , with a big stick obviously.


Welcome back J'poll, glad to see you about again.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2015-12-19 16:23:22 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
You're a terrible troll, OP. At least HoleySheet provides some amusement value in See and Pee, rather than just trolling NCQ&A

So bad a troll that her threads quickly pack full of legitimately useful and solid advice.

To be fair she's no nevil .


Nobody in EVE will ever beat that guy

Hmmmm pretty sure I would , with a big stick obviously.


Welcome back J'poll, glad to see you about again.


Thanks

And doubt you will.

I have tried and all he did was whine and complain from the safety of the station.

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#32 - 2015-12-19 16:28:12 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
You're a terrible troll, OP. At least HoleySheet provides some amusement value in See and Pee, rather than just trolling NCQ&A

So bad a troll that her threads quickly pack full of legitimately useful and solid advice.

To be fair she's no nevil .


Nobody in EVE will ever beat that guy

Hmmmm pretty sure I would , with a big stick obviously.


Welcome back J'poll, glad to see you about again.


Thanks

And doubt you will.

I have tried and all he did was whine and complain from the safety of the station.

Oh so did i, nearly grabbed him too but alas (or rather thankfully) he hasn't logged in in some time.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#33 - 2015-12-19 19:39:54 UTC
There are lot's of good ideas posted so far and i have a few thoughts to add.

You are in a low sec corp that has 42 other members, if they will not help you then get the hell out and find a corp that will.
EvE is hard on beginners, being in low sec makes it even harder and a being in a non-cooperative corp makes it even harder still.

ALWAYS keep at least one ship you can use to make ISK in high sec, and you are finding out why that is a really good idea.

I support and commend you on jumping into the low sec life with both feet, but beating your head against a wall you cannot break down makes no sense all you do is break yourself so here is my suggestion.

Leave low sec behind for a while and move to high sec.

Run missions and mine to rebuild your ISK reserves and perhaps some of your lost ships.

Use the ISK made in high sec to buy the minerals you need but cannot mine.

Remember the one from above, always keep a ship in high sec you can use to make ISK.

While you are doing all of these things use cheap ships to venture into low and practice how to watch local and your d-scan to keep yourself safer.

And I am going to end with the corporation you are in. If you have not asked them for assistance you should.
If they will not give you assistance then drop corp, put them in your rear view camera and move on. Some corps accept new players but will do nothing to help them, other actively embrace new players and are willing to help them, you need to find one of these types of corps.
Oraac Ensor
#34 - 2015-12-19 20:27:29 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
There are lot's of good ideas posted so far and i have a few thoughts to add.

You are in a low sec corp that has 42 other members, if they will not help you then get the hell out and find a corp that will.
EvE is hard on beginners, being in low sec makes it even harder and a being in a non-cooperative corp makes it even harder still.

>>>

And I am going to end with the corporation you are in. If you have not asked them for assistance you should.
If they will not give you assistance then drop corp, put them in your rear view camera and move on. Some corps accept new players but will do nothing to help them, other actively embrace new players and are willing to help them, you need to find one of these types of corps.

Did it not occur to you to check the date she joined that corp?
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2015-12-20 01:22:58 UTC
If you are too poor to buy in game plex for time, it obviously means you are paying $15 a month to play.

This means that you should buy a plex with $15 because you will never make that in the first two months.

Then buy implants and better ships to make more isk.

The more money you have the more you can make isk with.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

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Luke Skywalking
C0NC0RD Branch Office
#36 - 2015-12-20 02:12:33 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
If you are too poor to buy in game plex for time, it obviously means you are paying $15 a month to play.

This means that you should buy a plex with $15 because you will never make that in the first two months.

Then buy implants and better ships to make more isk.

The more money you have the more you can make isk with.



I agree that with more isk on hand , more capital, its easier to reap profits of a more substantial amount.

However I do not agree on your statement that it is impossible to make 1.2 billion in the first two months.

Its how much effort you put into the initial stages when you start out in Eve, and I find it very rewarding to subscribe for monthly, and set a target to work towards. And I'm reaching my target to purchase my first Plex with Isk.

Having said the above, as I progress in the game, its not about the ISK race anymore. I enjoy doing stuff on a rotational basis, exploration, mining, missioning, salvaging, trying my hand on trading ,fleeting up with friends for some stupid stuff.. even gambling ;) .

As you play the game, the ISK will come. Enjoy.

No one method is the right method, nor the wrong method.

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#37 - 2015-12-20 03:51:42 UTC
Someone can earn a plex in the first month, but not without working at it so hard that they turn EVE into a job. It will take probably 40 hours of work at least to earn that plex. Better to go out work a couple hours somewhere and then spend the other 38 hours playing eve with 1b isk.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Sarab Saeed
Doomheim
#38 - 2015-12-20 12:35:37 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
You're a terrible troll, OP. At least HoleySheet provides some amusement value in See and Pee, rather than just trolling NCQ&A


Thats not a nice comment as I was just looking for guidance and someone to tell me possibly what I was doing wrong, and I am certainly not here for peoples entertainment. I just want to play a fun game and I am struggling as I am trying to learn this all by myself, I don't actually know anyone else who plays it that I can ask 'noob' questions to.

I've never been called a Troll before so I'll take that as compliment as I have achieved something that I don't really know anything about :)

thank you everybody for all the other positive comments. I have learnt valuable lessons in the last week and now feel better equipped to venture out and about in the game.

S x

Only we are responsible for our own actions

Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#39 - 2015-12-20 16:17:32 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
[quote=Donnachadh]Did it not occur to you to check the date she joined that corp?

Did it ever occur to you that I may have checked her and her corp out on EvE Who?
If you are not aware of this little gem then here is a link to help you.
http://evewho.com/

But in reality how long she has or has not been in the corp is not relevant, because the advice applies equally to a day one players and multi-year vets as well. And it applies to those who just joined a corp 5 minutes ago or have been a corp for years. This game is about friendships and helping each other and so I repeat myself.

If she has not asked corp mates for help them she needs to do that. Many players will not assist a new / newer player unless they are specifically asked to provide that help for fear that even offering that help may upset or offend them.

If she has asked and they will not help her then she needs to get the hell out and find a corp that WILL help her when she asks.

Oraac Ensor
#40 - 2015-12-20 18:25:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Oraac Ensor
Donnachadh wrote:
Did it ever occur to you that I may have checked her and her corp out on EvE Who?
No, because you obviously didn't.

Donnachadh wrote:
But in reality how long she has or has not been in the corp is not relevant, because the advice applies equally to a day one players and multi-year vets as well. And it applies to those who just joined a corp 5 minutes ago or have been a corp for years.
Of course it's relevant, how could it not be? The OP posted her question a week ago but only joined her corp yesterday. Do you imagine that her corp has a TARDIS?