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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#21 - 2015-12-13 03:53:51 UTC
Loop Gummiworm wrote:
Paul Pohl wrote:
I wondering if you have a purpose to go there, or just want to go and look around?


Traveling/ratting mostly maybe some mining here and there but I know how to fit a mining ship for low sec

Ok, so some advice:

1. stay away from FW systems. FW has a lot of pvp, but lowsec can be very quiet outside the FW areas. Dotlan is good to check

2. lowsec ratting doesn't need a big ship or bling fit. A Vexor is good enough. A Vexor Navy is awesome. Even destroyers are good enough

3. If you want to mine, then the belt rats aren't really a problem in lowsec. Light drones will kill them. You can use a barge no problem, except that you need to travel from highsec to a quiet lowsec system. The travel will be the risky part. An alternative to a barge is a Venture, or if you want the ease of a covert ops cloak for travel in lowsec, then a Prospect (and double the ore bay and higher yield). In any case, fit for travel if you are using a barge (warp core stabs), refit off a mobile depot and travel at quiet times (eg. close to downtime is ideal).
Netan MalDoran
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#22 - 2015-12-13 04:33:22 UTC
Loop Gummiworm wrote:
Paul Pohl wrote:
I wondering if you have a purpose to go there, or just want to go and look around?


Traveling/ratting mostly maybe some mining here and there but I know how to fit a mining ship for low sec


Eh, Low sec mining isn't worth it, trust me.

And btw, stay farrrrrr away from Tama XD

"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!

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Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2015-12-13 04:57:36 UTC
Loop Gummiworm wrote:
But how would you set up a bookmark so far away from everything? That's incredibly long and you don't have anything to warp to.


You can't do that in many systems. Don't worry about it too much, though. Normal safespots are just fine, as long as you keep an eye on your directional scanner.
Dredd Stallone
GRIMMCORP
#24 - 2015-12-13 05:24:11 UTC
Lots of bookmarks
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#25 - 2015-12-13 07:08:20 UTC
Loop Gummiworm wrote:
But how would you set up a bookmark so far away from everything? That's incredibly long and you don't have anything to warp to.

A mission. Those will drop bookmarks in really weird places.
Bonus points if you complete the mission.

If you use the stations in low/null, you need to set up a minimum of two bookmarks: one inside the docking ring (distance will read 0), and at least one in line with the station's exit so you instawarp out of camps. This is also important in trade hubs if you carry expensive things around.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-12-13 07:24:25 UTC
Lowsec is mainly for PvP, except maybe from LvL5 missions and DED sites, individual ISK making is done elsewhere more profitable ...

I'm my own NPC alt.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#27 - 2015-12-13 07:27:25 UTC
Loop Gummiworm wrote:
Question: How does one set up a safe spot? I ask because I thought they have to be several AU from anything nearby to be deemed safe soi'm not sure how i'm supposed to create it.

As Neuntausend, it's not possible to make every safe >14.3 AU from anything else in system. Some systems are big enough to do it easily, but others just aren't (though if you come across a system with an incursion, you can still make deep safes by warping to an incursion site and saving a bookmark at or close by).

However, aside from making midwarp bookmarks between celestials, you can also make bookmarks while warping between other bookmarks. This allows you to make a 'safe' that is not in a direct warp between celestials, so you won't appear on someone's overview if they also warp between the same celestials.

You can do that easily just by creating 2 bookmarks between celestials and then a 3rd bookmark between the first two. Here's a very poor diagram of the idea:

http://puu.sh/lTGBN/a3a1fbb87c.png

Create bookmark A on your first warp after jumping into system. Make bookmark B in your next warp in a different direction, then just go back to A or B and warp between them, making bookmark C. Bookmark C then becomes your safer location (still not perfectly safe).
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#28 - 2015-12-13 07:49:56 UTC
My record through nulsec is over 40 jumps... in a rookie ship. I got blown-up when I finally made a mistake.

Seriously, lowsec isn't any big deal either. You will find most systems empty, or have people running missions that don't want to see you around either, and will flee rather than fight.

Probably the most dangerous systems are ones with small gate-camps, which are usually hisec entrances. Then there are faction warfare zones, but most of the time the participants are sitting in 'plexes and not on the gates.

Then there is just plain bad luck when you run into a fleet that is just passing through.

Overall though, after poking around a while you will probably be asking yourself, "Why was I afraid of this?"
Solecist Project
#29 - 2015-12-13 07:51:32 UTC
It's a game.

What's worse? Being afraid of lowsec, a non existing space in a videogame ...
... or being ashamed of being afraid of a non existing space in a videogame ?

If the answer is the first one, then I suggest you stop playing immediately.
If the answer is the second, I suggest not acting like a little child.

Either way, I am laughing about a grown up person being afraid of lowsec.


You should be ashamed of yourself.



(how's that for motivation, hm?)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#30 - 2015-12-13 07:52:52 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Loop Gummiworm wrote:
But how would you set up a bookmark so far away from everything? That's incredibly long and you don't have anything to warp to.

A mission. Those will drop bookmarks in really weird places.
Bonus points if you complete the mission.

If you use the stations in low/null, you need to set up a minimum of two bookmarks: one inside the docking ring (distance will read 0), and at least one in line with the station's exit so you instawarp out of camps. This is also important in trade hubs if you carry expensive things around.
Sound advice.
In addition, if you have scanning equipment, you might want to look out for Wormholes. If you find one, bookmark it if it is at a reasonable convenient spot. 24 Hours later, when the Wormhole has disappeared, you will have a good bookmark often well off the beaten path in a system.

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Gliese Casserres
Confused Bunnies Inc
#31 - 2015-12-13 07:59:08 UTC
If you fly small ships the only thing you really need to watch out is smartbombers, which show as criminals, and bigger gatecamps, which are rare. Most of lowsec is quiet and you'll eventually fly around like you don't care.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#32 - 2015-12-13 09:23:20 UTC
Max Fubarticus
K Diamond Holding LTD.
Bullets Bombs and Blondes
#33 - 2015-12-13 14:03:26 UTC
A clean clone and a cheap ship is what really makes LS and null travel fun. You will eventually die and suffer 0 relevant loses but gain a ton of experience. Builds confidence and lessens any apprehensions you may have had before. And that equals more fun for your game time.

Max

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KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2015-12-13 14:24:58 UTC
go straight to nullsec. join a big corp in a big alliance somewhere, you wont ever look back.

i used to be a highsec carebear. I can fly hulks and orcas, i anchored highsec pos with all my ratting standings... almost quit the game out of boredom. i packed everything up and joined the first nullsec corp that would take me, and in like 5+ years i've never went back to highsec for anything other than buy plexes, and sell my loot.

PvE or PVP at all times. you can make 40mil isk ticks in nullsec, and randomly an escalation that can be worth anywhere from 80mil to 5bil. You're safe because you watch intel channel, and keep an eye on local. And when your ratting ship does finally die, you don't care because its paid for itself and bought 50 more.

Plus theres the pvp,,, so when those baddies get reported on intel you now have the option of reshipping and ganking him. Your alliance would usually put up a fleet to kill him, and any good alliance will have some sort of basic training for nullsec pvp, and help you get set up with ships.



tldr: join a nullsec alliance, leave your assets in highsec, and buy/fly cheap ships in null. if you dont like it you can always go back

You can travel freely in null in an interceptor fit with inertial stabs, and maybe rig it with some cheap rigs and a cloak too.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Pix Severus
Empty You
#35 - 2015-12-13 14:36:47 UTC
1) Create an alt with a scary, elite PvPer name, like xXLord_DethXx
2) Get your sec status below 0, this puts a skull next your name in the overview, and makes you look hardcore
3) Put that killmail you once whored-on in your bio, you're an experienced PvP master and now everyone will know it
4) Speaking of bio, dont forget the obligatory Pulp Fiction quote!
5) Name your ship something spooky, like Mr Skeltal, so anyone scanning you down will know to back off
6) Make sure your avatar is dark, and you can't see your char's face, shadowy assassins are dangerous

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Solecist Project
#36 - 2015-12-13 16:17:46 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:
1) Create an alt with a scary, elite PvPer name, like xXLord_DethXx
2) Get your sec status below 0, this puts a skull next your name in the overview, and makes you look hardcore
3) Put that killmail you once whored-on in your bio, you're an experienced PvP master and now everyone will know it
4) Speaking of bio, dont forget the obligatory Pulp Fiction quote!
5) Name your ship something spooky, like Mr Skeltal, so anyone scanning you down will know to back off
6) Make sure your avatar is dark, and you can't see your char's face, shadowy assassins are dangerous

I don't recall telling you how well done your portrait is...

Well done. :D

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Pix Severus
Empty You
#37 - 2015-12-13 16:24:55 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
I don't recall telling you how well done your portrait is...

Well done. :D


Why thank you.

You're looking sexy as always Sol, I'm loving the new outfit.

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Solecist Project
#38 - 2015-12-13 16:29:49 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
I don't recall telling you how well done your portrait is...

Well done. :D


Why thank you.

You're looking sexy as always Sol, I'm loving the new outfit.

Thank you. :)
I ... made it myself. *snickers xD*

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Foxstar Damaskeenus
why did i join this corp
Not Purple Shoot It.
#39 - 2015-12-13 22:23:19 UTC
Join a decent factional warfare corp that takes new players and is active. Your corp hasn't killed anything since February.

It's helpful to have intel and a base of operations if you are going in to lawless or mostly lawless space. Don't do it alone, you are just whelping ships and that isn't fun. Try Dirt and Glitter (Amarr) or Ushra Khan (Minmatar)

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Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#40 - 2015-12-13 22:37:57 UTC
You could always fly a venture out with a procurer BPC on board.

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