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Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2015-12-11 15:10:02 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
XeX Znndstrup wrote:
Toriessian wrote:
Oh Oh...
Are YOU one of the representatives of the LAW?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=390383&find=unread

If you are your presence is requested in that thread.

Our agents never communicate publicly.
XeX Znndstrup is the only contact for safety reason.

The 'Enforcers' Live in constant fear of reprisal. You heard it here first

More like they live in constant fear of being found out as frauds. I bet their mains have nothing but mining barge losses and poorly fit trip-tank meta-soup battleships on zkillboard.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#62 - 2015-12-11 15:32:42 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
can i haz free permit coz we is friends?

what you plane on doing with my corps.


stuff.

i dont agree with the spacefriend rate thats not even a real discount!

What? It is an absolute excelent deal! No one ever got a better price! What stuff?

Evil RatKid
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#63 - 2015-12-11 15:35:13 UTC
Im running out of Dolls to put in my cargohold and they are expensive :(

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Quentin Jorinson
Doomheim
#64 - 2015-12-11 16:45:46 UTC
As you can see, the four-point system for eliminating the final traces of CODE rebels has a successful start.

In defense of CODE, I'll state this: we, too, hate the idea of AFK miners milking all the resources out of high-security space. We, too, encourage players to learn as much as they can about defending themselves in space. The original concept behind CODE, as we've read, seems to be something wonderful. Unfortunately, a few unsavory members have translated the CODE to mean "suicide-gank a newbie in a venture, even though he's not AFK, unless he pays you 10 mil... which he doesn't have". The newer, less enlightened CODE members have become nothing akin to CODE's original intent (from what we can interpret).

The first step was acknowledging that CODE is irrelevant. To address some of the more volatile comments, I'll respond as thus, without my beloved RP (which I'll add in later)

1. "WE ALL WISH FOR NOTHING MORE THAT YOU CHILDREN FINALLY STEP OUT OF YOUR
IMAGINATIONLAND AND START SHOOTING US ! HUNTING US! DO SOMETHING, DAMMIT, BUT STOP SHITPOSTING !"

I'm well aware of how CODE's understanding of the game mechanics, especially as they apply to High-Security space, allows them a bit of safety. When your enemy flies in High-sec, it's not quite that easy to simply shoot at them without a wardec (unless we also want CONCORD bearing down on us). CODE uses the safety of CONCORD as much as anyone else. The key to battling against CODE is preemptive striking, using similar (yet not the same) tactics they use themselves. The goal is to fire upon (and destroy) CODE ships before they hit miners, not after. But, with the threat of CONCORD, if we simply attacked CODE we'd be playing their game, not ours. And the whole point of shutting down CODE is to stop playing their game, and bring them into ours. This has forced us to think of creative ways to use the in-game mechanics ourselves, to give us the advantage.

2. "Concord has killed more CODE. members than anyone"

This is true, and will most likely continue to be the case. But that doesn't mean that we won't be striking at them as well. The few kill board posts that CODE members will link/spam in chat and on the forums will not highlight these losses. In addition, space is quite large, and CODE is larger (and more well-funded) than we are at the moment. So, our impact may be small at the start, but with a little luck and a lot of planning, the community should see a definite shift.

3. "Oh. So five posts in and you're ready to continue doing nothing. Great."

As any Vet should attest, EVE is not a world of instant gratification. To imply that the last remnants of CODE will be swept under the rug in a matter of minutes is unreasonable. EVE isn't checkers, it's chess. Since I appreciate the desires for this situation to be dealt with overnight, feel free to message me and I'll explain how you, too, can take action and assist the cause. But, if you wish to remain out of it, I won't begrudge you that either; many people opt to turn a blind eye rather than deal with CODE.

4. "When your killboard presence exceeds that of CODE. I may consider accepting your authority in this matter. CODE. at least backs up their words with action, so if nothing else they have more credibility than you do."

While we may have not destroyed as many ships as CODE, we also have not lost as many ships. This will play an important role in the task at hand. Browsing the killboard, we have begun contacting the individuals whose ships have fallen prey to CODE, and we have made a startling discovery; many (not a majority, but enough to make a difference) of the ships lost belong to CODE alts, to hype up their scams. At first, we couldn't understand it and it didn't make sense, because who would blow up their own ships to make a point? Well... that's CODE's M.O.: blowing up their own ships to make a point.

4. "So James 315 put your house in order don't let desperation and despair taint what was eve content"

This is the core of what we believe in. At one point, even we could be supportive of what James 315 originally intended. Sadly, his vision has fallen to the wayside. If he refuses to hold his people accountable, we shall do it for him.

and finally,

5. "You are posting from an alt to avoid tainting your main. You skulk in the safety of an NPC corp, surrounded by cyno alts, new players and witless cowards."

Yes.

Saying CODE was taken down by the Goons wouldn't be a big deal.
But saying CODE was taken down by an alt, skulking in the safety of an NPC corp surrounded by cyno alts, new players, and witless cowards... THAT will be a legendary EVE story. And I'm looking forward to it.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#65 - 2015-12-11 16:56:36 UTC
^^ who is this guy and why are you interrupting me and ima's conversation?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#66 - 2015-12-11 18:07:36 UTC
Yeah, he is totally derailing our thread Evil

Evil RatKid
Syeed Ameer Ali
Drunken Beaver Mining
#67 - 2015-12-11 18:07:44 UTC
Quentin Jorinson wrote:
As you can see, the four-point system for eliminating the final traces of CODE rebels has a successful start.

In defense of CODE, I'll state this: we, too, hate the idea of AFK miners milking all the resources out of high-security space. We, too, encourage players to learn as much as they can about defending themselves in space. The original concept behind CODE, as we've read, seems to be something wonderful. Unfortunately, a few unsavory members have translated the CODE to mean "suicide-gank a newbie in a venture, even though he's not AFK, unless he pays you 10 mil... which he doesn't have". The newer, less enlightened CODE members have become nothing akin to CODE's original intent (from what we can interpret).

The first step was acknowledging that CODE is irrelevant. To address some of the more volatile comments, I'll respond as thus, without my beloved RP (which I'll add in later)

1. "WE ALL WISH FOR NOTHING MORE THAT YOU CHILDREN FINALLY STEP OUT OF YOUR
IMAGINATIONLAND AND START SHOOTING US ! HUNTING US! DO SOMETHING, DAMMIT, BUT STOP SHITPOSTING !"

I'm well aware of how CODE's understanding of the game mechanics, especially as they apply to High-Security space, allows them a bit of safety. When your enemy flies in High-sec, it's not quite that easy to simply shoot at them without a wardec (unless we also want CONCORD bearing down on us). CODE uses the safety of CONCORD as much as anyone else. The key to battling against CODE is preemptive striking, using similar (yet not the same) tactics they use themselves. The goal is to fire upon (and destroy) CODE ships before they hit miners, not after. But, with the threat of CONCORD, if we simply attacked CODE we'd be playing their game, not ours. And the whole point of shutting down CODE is to stop playing their game, and bring them into ours. This has forced us to think of creative ways to use the in-game mechanics ourselves, to give us the advantage.

2. "Concord has killed more CODE. members than anyone"

This is true, and will most likely continue to be the case. But that doesn't mean that we won't be striking at them as well. The few kill board posts that CODE members will link/spam in chat and on the forums will not highlight these losses. In addition, space is quite large, and CODE is larger (and more well-funded) than we are at the moment. So, our impact may be small at the start, but with a little luck and a lot of planning, the community should see a definite shift.

3. "Oh. So five posts in and you're ready to continue doing nothing. Great."

As any Vet should attest, EVE is not a world of instant gratification. To imply that the last remnants of CODE will be swept under the rug in a matter of minutes is unreasonable. EVE isn't checkers, it's chess. Since I appreciate the desires for this situation to be dealt with overnight, feel free to message me and I'll explain how you, too, can take action and assist the cause. But, if you wish to remain out of it, I won't begrudge you that either; many people opt to turn a blind eye rather than deal with CODE.

4. "When your killboard presence exceeds that of CODE. I may consider accepting your authority in this matter. CODE. at least backs up their words with action, so if nothing else they have more credibility than you do."

While we may have not destroyed as many ships as CODE, we also have not lost as many ships. This will play an important role in the task at hand. Browsing the killboard, we have begun contacting the individuals whose ships have fallen prey to CODE, and we have made a startling discovery; many (not a majority, but enough to make a difference) of the ships lost belong to CODE alts, to hype up their scams. At first, we couldn't understand it and it didn't make sense, because who would blow up their own ships to make a point? Well... that's CODE's M.O.: blowing up their own ships to make a point.

4. "So James 315 put your house in order don't let desperation and despair taint what was eve content"

This is the core of what we believe in. At one point, even we could be supportive of what James 315 originally intended. Sadly, his vision has fallen to the wayside. If he refuses to hold his people accountable, we shall do it for him.

and finally,

5. "You are posting from an alt to avoid tainting your main. You skulk in the safety of an NPC corp, surrounded by cyno alts, new players and witless cowards."

Yes.

Saying CODE was taken down by the Goons wouldn't be a big deal.
But saying CODE was taken down by an alt, skulking in the safety of an NPC corp surrounded by cyno alts, new players, and witless cowards... THAT will be a legendary EVE story. And I'm looking forward to it.


Let us know if you actually start doing something. Until then go away and stop interrupting people, it's rude.

everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#68 - 2015-12-11 18:24:42 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Im running out of Dolls to put in my cargohold and they are expensive :(

I am not a doll Lan!! I am an evil space pirate!! Will you please respect me and shiver in fear!!? At least a little!

I am glad there are people like OP. There is only one thing I like more than dunking a miner. It's dunking a wannabe hero in his fail fitted bling ship. Their loot pays the whole thing in the end.

Evil RatKid
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#69 - 2015-12-11 20:32:26 UTC
Does OP realize that a toon with a -10 sec status can be freely engaged and killed (without CONCROD intervention) in hisec, and that most CODE. reps are -10 sec status?
Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#70 - 2015-12-12 08:30:20 UTC
Why is this thread still here?
Avvy
Doomheim
#71 - 2015-12-12 10:43:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Avvy
Quentin Jorinson wrote:
As you can see, the four-point system for eliminating the final traces of CODE rebels has a successful start.

In defense of CODE, I'll state this: we, too, hate the idea of AFK miners milking all the resources out of high-security space. We, too, encourage players to learn as much as they can about defending themselves in space. The original concept behind CODE, as we've read, seems to be something wonderful. Unfortunately, a few unsavory members have translated the CODE to mean "suicide-gank a newbie in a venture, even though he's not AFK, unless he pays you 10 mil... which he doesn't have". The newer, less enlightened CODE members have become nothing akin to CODE's original intent (from what we can interpret).

The first step was acknowledging that CODE is irrelevant. To address some of the more volatile comments, I'll respond as thus, without my beloved RP (which I'll add in later)

1. "WE ALL WISH FOR NOTHING MORE THAT YOU CHILDREN FINALLY STEP OUT OF YOUR
IMAGINATIONLAND AND START SHOOTING US ! HUNTING US! DO SOMETHING, DAMMIT, BUT STOP SHITPOSTING !"

I'm well aware of how CODE's understanding of the game mechanics, especially as they apply to High-Security space, allows them a bit of safety. When your enemy flies in High-sec, it's not quite that easy to simply shoot at them without a wardec (unless we also want CONCORD bearing down on us). CODE uses the safety of CONCORD as much as anyone else. The key to battling against CODE is preemptive striking, using similar (yet not the same) tactics they use themselves. The goal is to fire upon (and destroy) CODE ships before they hit miners, not after. But, with the threat of CONCORD, if we simply attacked CODE we'd be playing their game, not ours. And the whole point of shutting down CODE is to stop playing their game, and bring them into ours. This has forced us to think of creative ways to use the in-game mechanics ourselves, to give us the advantage.

2. "Concord has killed more CODE. members than anyone"

This is true, and will most likely continue to be the case. But that doesn't mean that we won't be striking at them as well. The few kill board posts that CODE members will link/spam in chat and on the forums will not highlight these losses. In addition, space is quite large, and CODE is larger (and more well-funded) than we are at the moment. So, our impact may be small at the start, but with a little luck and a lot of planning, the community should see a definite shift.

3. "Oh. So five posts in and you're ready to continue doing nothing. Great."

As any Vet should attest, EVE is not a world of instant gratification. To imply that the last remnants of CODE will be swept under the rug in a matter of minutes is unreasonable. EVE isn't checkers, it's chess. Since I appreciate the desires for this situation to be dealt with overnight, feel free to message me and I'll explain how you, too, can take action and assist the cause. But, if you wish to remain out of it, I won't begrudge you that either; many people opt to turn a blind eye rather than deal with CODE.

4. "When your killboard presence exceeds that of CODE. I may consider accepting your authority in this matter. CODE. at least backs up their words with action, so if nothing else they have more credibility than you do."

While we may have not destroyed as many ships as CODE, we also have not lost as many ships. This will play an important role in the task at hand. Browsing the killboard, we have begun contacting the individuals whose ships have fallen prey to CODE, and we have made a startling discovery; many (not a majority, but enough to make a difference) of the ships lost belong to CODE alts, to hype up their scams. At first, we couldn't understand it and it didn't make sense, because who would blow up their own ships to make a point? Well... that's CODE's M.O.: blowing up their own ships to make a point.

4. "So James 315 put your house in order don't let desperation and despair taint what was eve content"

This is the core of what we believe in. At one point, even we could be supportive of what James 315 originally intended. Sadly, his vision has fallen to the wayside. If he refuses to hold his people accountable, we shall do it for him.

and finally,

5. "You are posting from an alt to avoid tainting your main. You skulk in the safety of an NPC corp, surrounded by cyno alts, new players and witless cowards."

Yes.

Saying CODE was taken down by the Goons wouldn't be a big deal.
But saying CODE was taken down by an alt, skulking in the safety of an NPC corp surrounded by cyno alts, new players, and witless cowards... THAT will be a legendary EVE story. And I'm looking forward to it.




Maybe you're part of CODE, just drumming up more publicity for CODE.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#72 - 2015-12-12 14:02:25 UTC
^^ you're new here Big smile

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2015-12-12 20:46:07 UTC
Quentin Jorinson wrote:
As you can see, the four-point system for eliminating the final traces of CODE rebels has a successful start.

In defense of CODE, I'll state this: we, too, hate the idea of AFK miners milking all the resources out of high-security space. We, too, encourage players to learn as much as they can about defending themselves in space. The original concept behind CODE, as we've read, seems to be something wonderful. Unfortunately, a few unsavory members have translated the CODE to mean "suicide-gank a newbie in a venture, even though he's not AFK, unless he pays you 10 mil... which he doesn't have". The newer, less enlightened CODE members have become nothing akin to CODE's original intent (from what we can interpret).

The first step was acknowledging that CODE is irrelevant. To address some of the more volatile comments, I'll respond as thus, without my beloved RP (which I'll add in later)

1. "WE ALL WISH FOR NOTHING MORE THAT YOU CHILDREN FINALLY STEP OUT OF YOUR
IMAGINATIONLAND AND START SHOOTING US ! HUNTING US! DO SOMETHING, DAMMIT, BUT STOP SHITPOSTING !"

I'm well aware of how CODE's understanding of the game mechanics, especially as they apply to High-Security space, allows them a bit of safety. When your enemy flies in High-sec, it's not quite that easy to simply shoot at them without a wardec (unless we also want CONCORD bearing down on us). CODE uses the safety of CONCORD as much as anyone else. The key to battling against CODE is preemptive striking, using similar (yet not the same) tactics they use themselves. The goal is to fire upon (and destroy) CODE ships before they hit miners, not after. But, with the threat of CONCORD, if we simply attacked CODE we'd be playing their game, not ours. And the whole point of shutting down CODE is to stop playing their game, and bring them into ours. This has forced us to think of creative ways to use the in-game mechanics ourselves, to give us the advantage.

2. "Concord has killed more CODE. members than anyone"

This is true, and will most likely continue to be the case. But that doesn't mean that we won't be striking at them as well. The few kill board posts that CODE members will link/spam in chat and on the forums will not highlight these losses. In addition, space is quite large, and CODE is larger (and more well-funded) than we are at the moment. So, our impact may be small at the start, but with a little luck and a lot of planning, the community should see a definite shift.

3. "Oh. So five posts in and you're ready to continue doing nothing. Great."

As any Vet should attest, EVE is not a world of instant gratification. To imply that the last remnants of CODE will be swept under the rug in a matter of minutes is unreasonable. EVE isn't checkers, it's chess. Since I appreciate the desires for this situation to be dealt with overnight, feel free to message me and I'll explain how you, too, can take action and assist the cause. But, if you wish to remain out of it, I won't begrudge you that either; many people opt to turn a blind eye rather than deal with CODE.

4. "When your killboard presence exceeds that of CODE. I may consider accepting your authority in this matter. CODE. at least backs up their words with action, so if nothing else they have more credibility than you do."

While we may have not destroyed as many ships as CODE, we also have not lost as many ships. This will play an important role in the task at hand. Browsing the killboard, we have begun contacting the individuals whose ships have fallen prey to CODE, and we have made a startling discovery; many (not a majority, but enough to make a difference) of the ships lost belong to CODE alts, to hype up their scams. At first, we couldn't understand it and it didn't make sense, because who would blow up their own ships to make a point? Well... that's CODE's M.O.: blowing up their own ships to make a point.

4. "So James 315 put your house in order don't let desperation and despair taint what was eve content"

This is the core of what we believe in. At one point, even we could be supportive of what James 315 originally intended. Sadly, his vision has fallen to the wayside. If he refuses to hold his people accountable, we shall do it for him.

and finally,

5. "You are posting from an alt to avoid tainting your main. You skulk in the safety of an NPC corp, surrounded by cyno alts, new players and witless cowards."

Yes.

Saying CODE was taken down by the Goons wouldn't be a big deal.
But saying CODE was taken down by an alt, skulking in the safety of an NPC corp surrounded by cyno alts, new players, and witless cowards... THAT will be a legendary EVE story. And I'm looking forward to it.


1. Most of code(the ones who matter and are ganking, that is) is -10.0. It appears that you dont know the Game Mechanics of Eve, either.

2. Your impact is non-existant.

3. Its been 3 days. Lets see how much Code has killed, versus how much you have.

4. Code lose their ships from ganking frieghters/mining barges. If youre counting the ships that code lost to ganks, then its only fair to count the ships that were killed by code, as your ships. In which case, yes, you have lost far far more than code ever has.

4. What do you mean by "Hold accountable". Theyre doing nothing different from what they did at the beginning. Also, lrn2 count.

5. No. First off, Code hasnt been taken down yet, so as it stands, youre just a coward. Secondly, IF(And thats a big if) code gets taken down, no one will consider your "Alt" as the one who is responsible for taking down Code. That honour will go to the people who are actually fighting code and end up on the killmails, and not to the alts that are anonymously posting in forums.

Also, are you implying that youre goon?
Clara Pond
Never Not Snazzy
#74 - 2015-12-13 15:29:02 UTC
Avvy wrote:
Maybe you're part of CODE, just drumming up more publicity for CODE.


The Code works in mysterious ways...
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#75 - 2015-12-13 16:41:00 UTC  |  Edited by: StonerPhReaK
up up down down left right left right b a b a select start (only press select if you plan on two players)


Best code ever. May even work with eve's code. Have yet to try.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#76 - 2015-12-13 20:38:44 UTC
StonerPhReaK wrote:
up up down down left right left right b a b a select start (only press select if you plan on two players)


Best code ever. May even work with eve's code. Have yet to try.


Just tried it on my wife, got a free coffee and a cake. Thanks man.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...
Toriessian
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
#77 - 2015-12-13 23:02:22 UTC
I was thinking maybe this isn't being taken literally enough. Its entirely possible he printed a copy of the code on paper and turned it over.

Every day I'm wafflin!
Lavitias Arjar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2015-12-14 05:54:11 UTC
Why the **** would goons ever kill code when they provide threads like these for us to read.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#79 - 2015-12-14 09:05:05 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Does OP realize that a toon with a -10 sec status can be freely engaged and killed (without CONCROD intervention) in hisec, and that most CODE. reps are -10 sec status?
All lies ! Hire Marmites today for CODE cleaning. Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
XeX Znndstrup
#80 - 2015-12-14 09:10:13 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Does OP realize that a toon with a -10 sec status can be freely engaged and killed (without CONCROD intervention) in hisec, and that most CODE. reps are -10 sec status?
All lies ! Hire Marmites today for CODE cleaning. Twisted
Do you know we pay interesting amount of ISK for this type of cleaning ? You know where to call Blink

Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

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