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Funerary rites among the cultures of New Eden
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2015-12-10 19:25:06 UTC
Weapons components have edges.

A lot of edges.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-12-11 03:03:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Lyn Farel wrote:
Weapons components have edges.

A lot of edges.


Such an outdated piece of hardware.

Weapon components of the modern era do not need edges to operate. Anybody who wishes to be a knife in the age of fusion artillery shells, plasma fire, relativistic anti-matter canister projectile, particle beams and graviton-driven thermonuclear missiles is striving to be suboptimal.

Also, capsuleers are more than weapon components. Weapons do not subconsciously calculate firing solution, or plot navigation trajectory or decide whether an engagement is to their favour or not. Weapons do not seek profit in the market. Weapons do not explore the unknown entirely out of curiosity.

Capsule technology does not make us lesser. Capsule technology uplifted us from our biological limit and allow us to grasp what used to be unreachable.

Transhumanism, ho!

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2015-12-11 09:45:16 UTC
I suppose I am bad at jokes.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-12-11 09:52:50 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
I suppose I am bad at jokes.


Point being: Trying to be edgy is the same as trying to be suboptimal.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#25 - 2015-12-19 20:04:42 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Lyn Farel wrote:
Weapons components have edges.

A lot of edges.


Such an outdated piece of hardware.

Weapon components of the modern era do not need edges to operate. Anybody who wishes to be a knife in the age of fusion artillery shells, plasma fire, relativistic anti-matter canister projectile, particle beams and graviton-driven thermonuclear missiles is striving to be suboptimal.

Also, capsuleers are more than weapon components. Weapons do not subconsciously calculate firing solution, or plot navigation trajectory or decide whether an engagement is to their favour or not. Weapons do not seek profit in the market. Weapons do not explore the unknown entirely out of curiosity.

Capsule technology does not make us lesser. Capsule technology uplifted us from our biological limit and allow us to grasp what used to be unreachable.

Transhumanism, ho!


There is nothing suboptimal about an edgy weapon.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2015-12-20 10:25:22 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Lyn Farel wrote:
Weapons components have edges.

A lot of edges.


Such an outdated piece of hardware.

Weapon components of the modern era do not need edges to operate. Anybody who wishes to be a knife in the age of fusion artillery shells, plasma fire, relativistic anti-matter canister projectile, particle beams and graviton-driven thermonuclear missiles is striving to be suboptimal.

Also, capsuleers are more than weapon components. Weapons do not subconsciously calculate firing solution, or plot navigation trajectory or decide whether an engagement is to their favour or not. Weapons do not seek profit in the market. Weapons do not explore the unknown entirely out of curiosity.

Capsule technology does not make us lesser. Capsule technology uplifted us from our biological limit and allow us to grasp what used to be unreachable.

Transhumanism, ho!


There is nothing suboptimal about an edgy weapon.


Say that again when you, armed with a sword, turn around a corner right into a marine wielding an auto-shotgun.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Kador Ouryon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-12-20 10:48:34 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Lyn Farel wrote:
Weapons components have edges.

A lot of edges.


Such an outdated piece of hardware.

Weapon components of the modern era do not need edges to operate. Anybody who wishes to be a knife in the age of fusion artillery shells, plasma fire, relativistic anti-matter canister projectile, particle beams and graviton-driven thermonuclear missiles is striving to be suboptimal.

Also, capsuleers are more than weapon components. Weapons do not subconsciously calculate firing solution, or plot navigation trajectory or decide whether an engagement is to their favour or not. Weapons do not seek profit in the market. Weapons do not explore the unknown entirely out of curiosity.

Capsule technology does not make us lesser. Capsule technology uplifted us from our biological limit and allow us to grasp what used to be unreachable.

Transhumanism, ho!


There is nothing suboptimal about an edgy weapon.


Say that again when you, armed with a sword, turn around a corner right into a marine wielding an auto-shotgun.


Trying to talk while an infiltrator has a Nova Knife stuck through one of your kidneys isn't easy...

What fills the soul? Something that guides a lost child back to it's parents arms. Or waves that dye the shores of the heart gold. A blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat. Or the path the Sef descend drawn in ash. In the wake of fire.
Skyweir Kinnison
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-12-20 10:50:12 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:


Say that again when you, armed with a sword, turn around a corner right into a marine wielding an auto-shotgun.


In fairness, at a range of less than two metres and with surprise, I'd back a good swordsman to kill the marine perhaps eighty per cent of the time. Your point stands at any range greater than a normal human lunge (assuming standard gravity) or if the marine knows you're there.

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#29 - 2015-12-20 16:27:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ria Nieyli
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:


Say that again when you, armed with a sword, turn around a corner right into a marine wielding an auto-shotgun.


In fairness, at a range of less than two metres and with surprise, I'd back a good swordsman to kill the marine perhaps eighty per cent of the time. Your point stands at any range greater than a normal human lunge (assuming standard gravity) or if the marine knows you're there.


Let's assume that the sword is already unsheathed, and both people have equal reaction time of less than 0.2 seconds. The bullets would still travel the distance between them faster than the sword would. I believe you've seen too many holoreels.
Kador Ouryon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2015-12-20 21:06:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Kador Ouryon
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:


Say that again when you, armed with a sword, turn around a corner right into a marine wielding an auto-shotgun.


In fairness, at a range of less than two metres and with surprise, I'd back a good swordsman to kill the marine perhaps eighty per cent of the time. Your point stands at any range greater than a normal human lunge (assuming standard gravity) or if the marine knows you're there.


Let's assume that the sword is already unsheathed, and both people have equal reaction time of less than 0.2 seconds. The bullets would still travel the distance between them faster than the sword would. I believe you've seen too many holoreels.


All due respect I see this on quite a regular basis in the clone soldier conflicts. It isn't a matter of Holo-vids or mass media... the blade while woefully inefficient compared to a good rifle remains a dangerous tool on modern battlefields where the plasma heated edges of a Nova Knife can slice through shield and armour alike with single strikes.

While a KR-17 Breaching Shotgun has comparable killing power on a direct hit modern infantry shields and armour can absorb the worst plasma spray from a glancing spread.

Interestingly enough there is a growing movement amongst clone soldiers who simply don't bother with either and use Myofibril Stimulants to essentially dope themselves to the point where they can literally punch through the shield, armour, and flesh of an enemy combatant.

However.... I feel we're getting off track. The discussion of funerary traditions is interesting in its own right.

What fills the soul? Something that guides a lost child back to it's parents arms. Or waves that dye the shores of the heart gold. A blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat. Or the path the Sef descend drawn in ash. In the wake of fire.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2015-12-21 03:31:02 UTC
I think we can discuss the merits of a sword in a claustrophobic close combat situation in the corridors of a ship somewhere else.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#32 - 2015-12-27 22:17:21 UTC
Our bodies are just a material we have borrowed from the Universe. We are made from the same star dust that the stars and all the planets are made of. And after we finish using it, we shall return it.

Burning the bodies releases all the atoms and the spirit trapped within. Although maybe less friendly to the spirits, the tradition of returning bodies to the sea or to the space is still dominant during the naval and space conflicts. I think the best funeral ever is launching a coffin directly to the star, where it will be both burned and our atoms will rejoin with the rest of Universe in the cauldron of the creation itself. From the stars we came, and to the stars we return.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Arnulf Ogunkoya
Clan Ogunkoya
Electus Matari
#33 - 2015-12-28 10:29:14 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Our bodies are just a material we have borrowed from the Universe. We are made from the same star dust that the stars and all the planets are made of. And after we finish using it, we shall return it.

Burning the bodies releases all the atoms and the spirit trapped within. Although maybe less friendly to the spirits, the tradition of returning bodies to the sea or to the space is still dominant during the naval and space conflicts. I think the best funeral ever is launching a coffin directly to the star, where it will be both burned and our atoms will rejoin with the rest of Universe in the cauldron of the creation itself. From the stars we came, and to the stars we return.


Well said.

Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#34 - 2015-12-29 23:10:19 UTC
On Intaki we have this "reborn" thing which is supposed to be the transference of a memory or conscience from old to new. Some thought a drug could aid in this at one time.

I think it was really a ploy for ancient nobility to retain their status and later to avoid death taxes. But that's like just my opinion on the matter. Some take it seriously. I'm not a claimant of any past memories but the tradition from my mother's side of the family and the passing on the memories woman to woman is still alive. Supposedly my sister has loose screws in her head that are thousands of years old knocking around, stuff from great times 20 grandmas, running from wild simians and in jungles and stuff like that. I don't know.


BTW the last place you want to die is in the jungles of Intaki. Lots of bugs.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2015-12-30 02:18:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
On Intaki we have this "reborn" thing which is supposed to be the transference of a memory or conscience from old to new. Some thought a drug could aid in this at one time.

I think it was really a ploy for ancient nobility to retain their status and later to avoid death taxes. But that's like just my opinion on the matter. Some take it seriously. I'm not a claimant of any past memories but the tradition from my mother's side of the family and the passing on the memories woman to woman is still alive. Supposedly my sister has loose screws in her head that are thousands of years old knocking around, stuff from great times 20 grandmas, running from wild simians and in jungles and stuff like that. I don't know.


BTW the last place you want to die is in the jungles of Intaki. Lots of bugs.


I say there are many other places that will contend with 'jungles of Intaki' as 'last place you want to die'. Amamake, for example, has worlds populated by flesh-eating insects that will happily eat your limbs if you so much as sleep close to their burrow. Nevermind the dust storms. The non-terraformed portion of Skarkon II and vicinity suffers from seasonal ultra-fine dust storms that will give you something similar to asbestosis if you did not take precautions (and sometimes even if you did take precautions). You don't want to be on a plasma world during mid-day unless you are in a shielded colony.

Seriously, once the sun shows up over the horizon, you will smell the ozone, see the beginnings of a lightning storm and next thing you know, you are vaporised as the atmosphere of air rapidly transits into an atmosphere of superheated plasma and blows right in your face.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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