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Solo Pilot Plex

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Guido-San Tosh
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-12-02 15:19:33 UTC
I'm a facwar pilot who likes to fly solo. I've tried fleets, not my thing. Yes, I get ganked all the time, we all know it's the nature of the beast. However, I would love for the CCP to try experimenting with a combat plex for solo pilots. The plex gates are programmed to keep out anything larger than the size class they are made for, why not have one plex per system that will only let in one ship per faction in at a time? Neutrals (pirates) can still gank people going at the gates, it won't spoil their fun - but it will give us solo pilots a better chance to have some 1 on 1 fights.
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-12-02 16:19:30 UTC
Guido-San Tosh wrote:
I'm a facwar pilot who likes to fly solo. I've tried fleets, not my thing. Yes, I get ganked all the time, we all know it's the nature of the beast. However, I would love for the CCP to try experimenting with a combat plex for solo pilots. The plex gates are programmed to keep out anything larger than the size class they are made for, why not have one plex per system that will only let in one ship per faction in at a time? Neutrals (pirates) can still gank people going at the gates, it won't spoil their fun - but it will give us solo pilots a better chance to have some 1 on 1 fights.


It won't work I'm afraid, people will just abuse that system.

Plexes impact FW sovereignty. However a timer only functions if 1 factions pilot is in range of the structure. If a war target is in the plex but out of range then the timer still ticks down for the faction 'holding' the structure.

This would be abused by people putting their character in a plex plus an alt they have in the enemy militia. This way they can afk plex with no risk of being interrupted, get free LP and impact on system contestation.
Guido-San Tosh
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-12-02 16:31:16 UTC
It won't work I'm afraid, people will just abuse that system.

Plexes impact FW sovereignty. However a timer only functions if 1 factions pilot is in range of the structure. If a war target is in the plex but out of range then the timer still ticks down for the faction 'holding' the structure.

This would be abused by people putting their character in a plex plus an alt they have in the enemy militia. This way they can afk plex with no risk of being interrupted, get free LP and impact on system contestation.
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Yep, that occurred to me. Maybe by putting another timer on the plex, that if the 2 ships don't resolve a fight inside of 2 minutes, another set of ships from each faction will be let in? Perhaps letting in another ship in one goes out of the plex range?
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-12-02 17:03:06 UTC
Guido-San Tosh wrote:
It won't work I'm afraid, people will just abuse that system.

Plexes impact FW sovereignty. However a timer only functions if 1 factions pilot is in range of the structure. If a war target is in the plex but out of range then the timer still ticks down for the faction 'holding' the structure.

This would be abused by people putting their character in a plex plus an alt they have in the enemy militia. This way they can afk plex with no risk of being interrupted, get free LP and impact on system contestation.


Yep, that occurred to me. Maybe by putting another timer on the plex, that if the 2 ships don't resolve a fight inside of 2 minutes, another set of ships from each faction will be let in? Perhaps letting in another ship in one goes out of the plex range?
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Pretty tricky to do that code wise. Even if it were easily doable how would other pilots know that they could enter the plex? Their d-scan would show 2 ships so they would probably not look. Even if they could easily identify if they could enter the plex it is no longer solo PVP as the player abusing the plex now has two characters and ships in the plex vs the one newcomer. That then defeats the object of your suggestion.
Guido-San Tosh
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-12-02 17:43:28 UTC
Pretty tricky to do that code wise. Even if it were easily doable how would other pilots know that they could enter the plex? Their d-scan would show 2 ships so they would probably not look. Even if they could easily identify if they could enter the plex it is no longer solo PVP as the player abusing the plex now has two characters and ships in the plex vs the one newcomer. That then defeats the object of your suggestion.




Ok, so how about widening the plex zone to 100km or more, and then letting someone else in if one pilot leaves the zone? Can you think of something else that could make this work?
Guido-San Tosh
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-12-02 18:28:37 UTC
How about killing the timer on the solo plex? The only lp to be gained would be from winning fights?
Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-12-02 20:17:37 UTC
You are looking for a different mechanic. FW is not about 1v1 honor fights. If that is what you want, look into dueling or maybe RvB if that is still around.

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Guido-San Tosh
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-12-02 21:19:17 UTC
I've been in the fac war for years now, I know it's not setup for solo pilots, that's my point - trying to find a way we can better contribute and have some fun too.
Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-12-02 23:08:48 UTC
Guido-San Tosh wrote:
I've been in the fac war for years now, I know it's not setup for solo pilots, that's my point - trying to find a way we can better contribute and have some fun too.


I would disagree, FW has been wonderful for solo as long as you don't demand "fair" 1v1's.

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Guido-San Tosh
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-12-03 02:08:16 UTC
Interesting. I just went through your kill list back through October on the killboards, and can't find one you had all by yourself. Do you fly solo with one of your alts?
Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#11 - 2015-12-03 04:56:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Oreb Wing
Many of our leaders find their time is most often spent leading groups and attending to the tedious affairs of corporate duties. They might not have many solo kills that are recent. Recent or not, not much has changed. You use your best judgement to steer a confrontation to your favor and odds. Whether that be solo, or even fighting outnumbered. The more you learn, the more you are prepared to predict to minimize being blobbed.
I think you are leaning too far towards consensual* pvp, which I think is very un-Eve like. The doubt and the planning are what make pvp's greatest moments and what makes them worth remembering.

The more confident pilots become, the more solo there is, imo. Now, every fleet is different, along with every fleet commander. Fly only what you're willing to self -destruct at their command and you'll find that you won't mind losses or mistakes as much, while learning more and more on your end.

The greatest fights I've had aren't the ones that are solo. They were the ones when you're outnumbered and a few pilots beat the odds by flying well.
Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#12 - 2015-12-03 04:59:47 UTC
Then, when you find a group you trust and fit well with, you fly what you can't afford to lose and have the best time, balls to the wall.
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-12-03 05:32:07 UTC
There was a rumbling of an idea for an arena style fight system a year or so ago but I believe it got dropped. I've a niggling feeling it was a CCP Greyscale idea so it was maybe for the best. Lol

Just ask in local OP. You'll soon work out whos legit about a honourable 1v1 or not but it's best done with you and the other party in a fleet and a safe spot, not in a plex where there will often be gatecrashers to your party. P

FW plexes are not there for honourable duels.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#14 - 2015-12-03 09:12:34 UTC
The core idea of that MMORPG is get friends. Can't beat that Maulus Navy sitting in a PLEX ? Bring more friends. Thats the game design and any solo benefit stuff like this will go against game politic.
Guido-San Tosh
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-12-03 14:12:24 UTC
Once again, I've done the fleet thing and I don't have as much fun with it as I do flying solo. This idea was based on SOLO PILOTS being able to get more out of the fac war part of the game. Hell, I spent 2 hours running around the warzone last night. I got into 1 fight, which was a draw, and dodged a few ganks. Meh, not bad, not good.

Funny how people always want to convince you that you're playing the game wrong if you're not playing it their way.

Aaaand the core idea of a MMORPG is to make money off of lots of nerds like us. If making it more fun for solo pilots to fight in fac war draws in a few more nerds for CCP to milk for $$$, then its in their best interests to do so.
Maccian
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-12-03 14:28:16 UTC
You can always do the 1v1 challenge in local and if they don't uphold the request, name, shame and question their space honour!
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-12-03 18:38:43 UTC
Oreb Wing wrote:
I think you are leaning too far towards concentric pvp, which I think is very un-Eve like.

I think you mean consensual pvp. Concentric pvp happens every time a fleet orbits the anchor. Big smile

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Guido-San Tosh
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-12-03 20:15:23 UTC
Heh. I wouldn't go so far as consensual, but I would appreciate the gankers kising me first... Blink
Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#19 - 2015-12-03 20:58:24 UTC
Your idea fits better as a Pirate than as part of a Faction, which you do not seem to understand implies a group effort by its very nature and function as it currently exists.
Guido-San Tosh
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-12-03 21:25:40 UTC
Actually Oreb, the group effort is to defeat the enemy faction, not to do so by fleet action only. That's why single ships can still capture plexes, and why single pilots can fly warzone missions.

This concept really bugs you doesn't it? Someone can't play the game any way but the way you like? Tsk.
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