Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You really have good X-Tinct's

That's what justifies their ludicrous tank, after all.

It might be construed as taking away tactical choices, but what tactical choice is there in a cloaked booster alt? The whole problem with them right now is just how binary they are. You either bring one and hide it deep, or you're gimping yourself, and fleet combat has no place for such a "choice".

There's no more or less choice in the matter of whether you want boosts, but there are additional tactical considerations now, like whether you bring a spare booster in case your primary one dies, or whether you spread the boosts around between several ships so they can't nuke it all by killing one ship, etc.

I get what you're saying and I know it sounds oxymoronic but the situation today is assume boosts and make various tactical choices anyway. Tomorrow it'll be primary all the CS to death. Then resume existing tactical choices.

Also, as others have mentioned setting the fat turkey aside, the CS tanks really aren't all that. You've basically got the damnation>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vulture/NH>>>>>>>Everything else. You get a bigger tank on a proteus than the Eos you'd want to boost it. That's not cool. Yes, yes, T3s broken but you take my point.

They need to look long and hard at these. The active tankers are hopeless in a fleet fight, they just can't get up there. They're holdovers from the old design scheme of the fleet and field command ships. "Field boosters" pretty much died a death with the warp speed changes and the speed creep in the cruiser and below meta. Some exceptions exist, but are exceptions.

Which is why I say maybe their impact needs a big nerf too, otherwise there is no choice - kill the command ship, or lose. Which means you bring a damnation, or lose.

And bringing up yet another issue with the BC and BS classes.

The warp speed changes just cripple most larger ship doctrines from the outset. Unless the intent behind those changes was to make this game into Cruisers Online, I cannot figure out why they haven't been scrapped yet. Well, CCP's longstanding tendency towards sunken cost fallacies notwithstanding, anyway.

And this calls for another serious look at Command Ships. I'd say to strip their firepower in favor of ultra tank and sustaining ability.

Oh grow a pair and bring your boosting ships on-grid. Alternatively, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

1.) Just because you can't see a use for on-grid boosters doesn't mean everyone else who runs boosts will just stop immediately.
2.) Every corp in null does not run a similar setup. We members of DROWI proudly run head first into danger. We do not leave boosting ships sitting in a far corner of the system. We do not play those sort of games, we play for fun.
3.) Your figures also fail to account for all the people who will come to EVE from the change. Improve the gameplay and people who don't like fun will run away, and be replaced by often even larger numbers of fun-lovers.



I'd ask for your stuff but I don't really want that many Command Processors with no Hardeners. Please just put it in the trash for me.








I feel they already have the defense to warrant having less offensive output, but they don't have reduced offensive output really. It's already a little overpowered, just to make it feel like less of a DPS hole. It needs no more than that, and really the defenses are fine.

Can you fit me a workable eos, astarte, claymore or sleipnir which has even 75% of a comparable damnations levels of survivability, please?

Because god knows, I've tried and it isn't happening for me.

Now these are four fantastic ships for smashing a small gang on a roam, but as mentioned....no-one roams with these any more.

Whilst it's an admitted shift from gallente master race, it's still not healthy.

I believe CCP is gonna broaden the T2 BC class into multiple variants like T2 Cruisers (HACs,HICs, Recons, etc). With the removal of OGB, I see no reason for Command Ships to be use as combatant ships anymore. I rather for them to become true Command Ships with focus on on grid boosting, High EHP with very strong tanks. Then around that time CCP can release a new line of T2 BCs designed for pure combat.

Dont forget that CCP is experementig with large Grids. So the new OnGrid Booster can stil be 1000km of the figiht

Wait, what? On grid boosting is precisely why they have the combat abilities that they do.

You do realize that loading up on nothing but command links in the highslots was the unintended behavior, right? You're supposed to stick a couple in the spares and spread the load out among numerous ships. That's their original design intent.

I mean, let's be real here, flying an otherwise useless buff stick is not much fun. Whatever else it might have turned into now with Game of Alts, the intent is that these be acceptable options for someone to fly solo with and assist his fleet, while not being relegated to an inactive role.

There really is no reason to split them into two ship classes, when you have one class that can perform both roles, but not both at the same time.