Player Features and Ideas Discussion

There are two kinds of podding going on in eve, legal and illegal, legal from kill rights, dueling, corp wars , and LEGAL agressions, and then there is illegal podding, from ganking and direct illegal aggression, the game mechanics KNOWS the difference, because in the legal case CONCORD WILL NOT get involved, and in the illegal case CONCORD will get involved and will destroy and flag the perpetrator(s). THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS NOW...So the game mechanics KNOWS the difference, and with players being killed in missions the NPCs NEVER pod a players, and also the gankers only use cheap ships and cheap implants on their victims only, knowing that CONCORD will destroy their ships anyway, so this whole issue is solely about "claiming" the amount of kills on a kill board like in some seaside resort arcade game which cheapens and lowers the value of such a good game as Eve.

As HI-SEC illegal podding is possibly a reason for the fall off of new players trying to start in eve, and fairly established players deciding they have had enough of this new phenomenon that has started, and left, I suggest that in the case of Illegal podding in HI-SEC SPACE either on miners, or from gate camps, that ...

1. The podded entity is "resurrected" back at the LAST station it UNDOCKED from, with its complete compliment of implants if any.
2. The ship with all its modules and rigs if any, replaced there too.

ie for the victim player it is as if the incident never happened.

As for the perpetrator, as CONCORD will destroy the ship but at the moment doesn't pod the capsuleer, I suggest

1. as punishment for such an action, the game CAN pod the perpetrator and resurrect them back at their "HOME" station with a NEW bare clone, and a rookie ship. (like it does with the victim now)
2. That NO kill rights are issued for the incident to the victim, and no criminal flag is issued to the perpetrator, ie no need for revenge.
3. There is no ship debris at the point of the incident of either the perpetrator or the victim.

hopefully this action will bring back established players who may have lost a lot through illegal ganking and got fed up and left, and also, wont deter new players from staying on after their trial period.
this way the victim isn't at a loss for this incident, and the perpetrator just gets a slap on the wrist off CONCORD.

For the so called perpetrators, well they have 0.4, 0.3, 0.2, 0.1, 0.0, and Worm Hole space to carry on with that aspect of the game.

Please view https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Golden_Rules for reference.

This is intended gameplay.

If you don't like it, kindly get the **** out.

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There are pretty much only two ways to lose a pod in highsec.

1. AFK mining, as was your most recent case.
2. AFK autopiloting.

The real problem here is not the big bad ganker killing your pod. The real problem here is your mistaken belief that you should be allowed to pretend you're a bot.

It is nearly impossible to be ganked in highsec if you're attentive and take approptiate measures to reduce your risk. I've missioned, hauled, and mined in highsec for nearly a decade, and haven't been ganked in over 7 years.

Learn to EvE.

Better idea

Don't fly around naked in a shiny pod

Or we could just implement this idea:

Make 200mm steel plating on 80m retrievers make them invincible so that 80m mixed mining/gunnery pods aren't then exposed.

@ Donna

The section of my post you've quoted doesnt refer to ganking either. Im pointing out to the op that people join this game FOR the PvP and the thrill of real loss.

But the op IS talking about pods being suicide ganked.

Please explain why you want suicide ganking removed, using only points that have not been discussed to death in this very forum.

Or puppets. I like puppets.

Did you ever stop to consider that suicide ganking exists because the game developers deliberately coded it into the game?

Just because something is "illegal" from a game lore point of view does not mean it is "illegal" from a game mechanics point of view. Far from it in fact because if CCP wanted to make highsec safe from non-consensual PvP, they could just lock out offensive modules from highsec or disallow the "red" safety setting.

CCP wants the game to work this way. You are of course free to ask them to change the very core of their game to suit you, but you really should then expect to get mocked by those players who like the game the way it is.

You're entirely correct in that, though I doubt you realise why.

Aggression and violence explicitly can be inflicted upon you anywhere in space in eve.<------emphasis on the period.
It's a full time PvP sandbox by design and no amount of "yeah but ... That's just ... your Opinion ... maaaan" will change that.

You are the one making assumptions here , file a support ticket (f12 in-game) and get it from the horses mouth if you don't believe any of us.

I do like the idea of CONCORD podding anyone who criminally pods another player in Hi-Sec.

Perhaps issuing a stiff fine as well.

While they're at it, implement some sort of jail system. Where upon multiple offenses they get confined. They can log in and access certain chat channels, but are otherwise incapable of doing anything else for a period of time (say from 1 hour up to 24 hours).