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Arty rifter fit
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JonnyRandom
#1 - 2011-12-13 02:47:23 UTC
Anyone know a good fit for arty rifters for kiting purposes? I wanna see if it'll work on AC thrashers, and I can't decide whether to fit AB, MWD, or both?
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-12-13 03:51:39 UTC
Without a mwd you arent kiting anything.

Something like this maybe?

[Rifter, arty]
Gyrostabilizer II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption

280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Dorian Tormak
RBON United
#3 - 2011-12-13 03:58:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Dorian Tormak
Never really liked the MWD arty Rifter cause once you get scrammed you're dead and your dps is pathetic so there is a lot of time for your enemy to land a scram on you.

Arty Rifter
250mm Artillery Cannon II x2

1mn Afterburner
Warp Disruptor
Stasis Webifier

Damage Control
Small Armor Repairer
Overdrive Injector System

Rigs to taste - when I flew this thing I used 1 Burst Aerator Rig and 2 CCC rigs.

Orbit at like 15km. I killed lots and lots of Rifters with it, a few AF, some destroyers. Not sure if you can kill a Thrasher any more after the boost.

It's weakness is frigs setup with mwd/scram/web, they'll get right up in your grill.

Also there's this dude I used to know, Sobczinski, who flew a Howitzer arty Rifter, but it had no tank it seemed to work though you can look up his fit.

Also don't use the fit above mine, no offense but you will die.

Holy Satanic Christ! This is a Goddamn Signature!
JonnyRandom
#4 - 2011-12-13 04:27:32 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
Without a mwd you arent kiting anything.

Something like this maybe?

[Rifter, arty]
Gyrostabilizer II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption

280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I



Hm, that's actually the exact fit that I just wizzed up in EFT. Have you flown it? It's got no tank to speak of, sure, but pulsing the MWD and the TD should keep you out of harms reach vs any frigate or arty destroyer, I think.

Dorian Tormak wrote:
Never really liked the MWD arty Rifter cause once you get scrammed you're dead and your dps is pathetic so there is a lot of time for your enemy to land a scram on you.

Arty Rifter
250mm Artillery Cannon II x2

1mn Afterburner
Warp Disruptor
Stasis Webifier

Damage Control
Small Armor Repairer
Overdrive Injector System


Why the SAR? A Gyrostab would surely be more useful?
Deena Amaj
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-12-13 04:55:52 UTC
I seriously doubt you will have it that simply again an AC Thrasher. Destroyers are there to melt frigates and the Rifter will always have a hole no matter what you stuff on it.

Also, I seriously doubt it is a good idea to use webs or even get in range with that. It is likely that the AC Thrasher will have webs, so I don't think you'd survive. Last thing you'd want is to give him a Killmail with a rigged Rifter that could not even live up to it.

I'd rather take a Tracking Disruptor with Optimal Range script to raise your survivabilty against the hail of bullets. However, you'd need to be able to dictate range.

At this point, I wouldn't go for a gyrostab unless you have enough cap to fly and TD and Warp-Disrupt at the same time.

confirthisposmed

I'm probably typing on a Tablet too, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them.
Dorian Tormak
RBON United
#6 - 2011-12-13 05:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Dorian Tormak
You could cram a Gyro on there if you use very low CPU-using mid-slots, but even then it's extremely tight unless you use a different DC. Besides that, a Gyro brings the DPS from 55 with RF DP to 66 with the same ammo, which is not really worthwhile over the SAR. That repper has won me more fights than an ECM Drone-spewing Thorax.

The fit is pretty much perfect, I used it over the course of a year or so and changed the mods around drastically many times but that is the ultimate way to fly it, I've found.

The web is there so you can - derp - dictate range. If you're not gonna use a web, you've got to use an MWD, by which time you have zero tank and the fit is completely different. The thing about MWD fits is that you really have to think about capacitor - using your third mid-slot for a tracking disruptor is quite unwise Plus a problem that a lot of MWD fit arty Rifters have is they try and fit a non-tech-II warp disruptor, which is OK for an AB arty Rifter, but with an MWD I think you wanna be past 20km, and the arty Rifter already has such puny DPS it's rather sad to try and stretch it out that far.

Keep the web overheated the entire fight, and you can pretty much halt any frigate at about 11km before you drift back out to 15 or so.

Holy Satanic Christ! This is a Goddamn Signature!
To mare
Advanced Technology
#7 - 2011-12-13 06:08:50 UTC
[Rifter, arty]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Faint Warp Disruptor I

250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I



this one work decently i used it sometimes its good because you can stay in a safe zone but its really slow at killing other ships compared to the AC version.
decent dps at range if you cant fit it replace the proj rig
some sort of tank

and hope your opponent isnt active tanking or it will take forever