EVE General Discussion

I have to make an update. I just checked the kill mail and he was flying a catalyst, so its actually................................


600k ISK ship




versus 5 million ISK ship

well 8 million with ice harvesters


Real balanced.

lol

No, I'm asking you a question.

So what? What's unbalanced with a 2M+ killing ship (further tweaked for killing at the complete expense of survival) being able to kill an 8M utility ship that (most likely) was tweaked to become weaker than usual (but which, with a few other tweaks, could be given a fair chance against the gank ship)?

LOL ... Love the analogy. Although it's pretty obvious he's trolling your story is exactly that. Or the guy that plays Engineer in BF and just wants to repair tanks.

I think we have a severe distortion of the intent of the game, to a point where people are totally misunderstanding the basis of the it. EVE IS ABOUT SHIP Pew Pew and everything within the game is tied to it. Building, Mining, Researching, Blowing up and Reconstructing again in an endless circle.

Incarna failed in so many levels by trying to create a new level of reality that didnt tie directly to the main point of the game, and not to mention that they released a half baked attempt that wasnt even polished, which is a double blunder. I need to stress that for obvious reasons.

Back on the idea, I think this Degree'd Troll just wants to show us the current mindset of a lot of people in the game atm.

We are seeing our Battlefield server flooded by people that want to be Medics and Engineers without shooting and being killed and getting annoyed and then being vocal, problem with this throng of Medics that just drop medpacks endlessly and engineers that just repair mindlessly is that they paypal donate constantly like the regular players and in the end they are more than the rest. So here comes the interesting conundrum. A fully paid and upgraded server where everybody is slowly becoming static Engineers and Medics will be ... futile. IF we extrapolate to the future it poses problems of a new order of magnitude, but we need to understand the light being shed by Trollgineer.

See, the troll is showing us the very obvious and the emo rage that accompanies it and Tippia as usual is reflecting a particular pragmatic stance that is the norm here, seconded by several fellow players, but it is all practically useless against the self-deluded notion of the Hi Sec dweller that embodies the TRUE CAREBEAR credo of forced PEACE.

There are no bullets, missiles nor T2 Ammo able to even nickel that carebear mental shield.

Trollgineer OP is an amazing window into the debacle that we live in atm in EVE.

And this is what we need to analyze seriously.

Trollgineer even dared to utter that CCP should need to refocus THEIR OWN vision, and this is perhaps, in this pseudo-analysis of Troll dung the core Issue behind it.

Why is OUR Battlefield server becoming infested by Engineers and Medics that dont want to shoot? Thus creating the further parallax of issues behind this one?

And be with me for a little further, comrades, why is CCP so estranged from this vision when it comes to the playerbase? Is perhaps the way they market the game the main culprit at creating this issue? Or the Expectations of the new player are completely wrong from the start by their own doing? Is the new gen of gamers so "crystallized" in a metaphysical way of speaking, that they pretend to keep crystallizing here?

What I see is a CLOT, a blood CLOT, slowly forming from the extremes, (Hi Sec/Null) beginning to choke the main arteries of EVE from the borders and from within. Perhaps more like Arteriosclerosis , or just the hardening of mindsets.

There's no way one or the other side can reconcile as the player base attribute a certain type of value to ISK and from there to Ships and Modules. Fact is we could theorize on this for so long , we simply need a more analytical view from CCP itself to discern this issue.

It's underlying yet overtly apparent.

Anyone following me and what I'm trying to convey?

Oh well, just my thoughts.

Also Trollgineer 8/10 for making me visualize these issues as choking arteries.

Unless you're claiming that bare hulls are killing you the 2 million isk comes from buying guns and mods for the hull.

Because they offer different buckets and spades to play in the sandbox with.

It's not a distinction between “combat zone” and “non-combat zone” — it's a distinction between “combat zone with A, B, and C” and “combat zone with B, C, D and E”.
No. The intent is and has always been that you can be attacked anywhere. The purpose of security status has already been explained and does not contradict this intent in any way.

1) What safety tactics should I use when every blue ice belt is camped with gankers?

2) What fit should I use on a retriever to survive a gank?

3) What situational awareness is there to be had when he warps in 1000m from me, locks in a second, and open fires?

4) What good spot? Every belt is camped from their own admission.

5) What is freely available at my disposal that will stop them from ganking me as I mine ice?

6) Your right, this game "doesn't work like that" which is why I made this post so maybe someday it will work like that.

7) I hate it when games try to force me to do things. I'm the one paying the bills. I like hauling, doing missions, building stuff. I love 99% of eve. Why should I pay to be forced to do something I don't want? I don't want to be a cog. I want to be me and enjoy the game that I pay money for. Thats why I don't pay people to hit me with hammers. I wouldn't like it.

guise i think he is serious, actually. makes me sad to be an engineer, honestly.

Oh, and why should I be screwed when I go to get some gas for my pos so I can do some research and just because some clown dictated that a gank squad should be made I have to suffer?

Playing a game made by vikings.

They are not normal people. They have been ******* people since the dark ages.