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Darkstar01
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-11-22 18:35:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Darkstar01
It's been a while since I've touched research (never tried the overhauled research system).

I was wondering, now when you need to research in an NPC station - is the 10% tax referring to 10% of the NPC BPO price? And also is it 10% per level ML / PL, or 10% each time you install a research job?

And, do the NPC stations still have slot limitations like they use to, or do they have infinite research slots now?

Thanks.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#2 - 2015-11-22 20:32:25 UTC
Darkstar01 wrote:
It's been a while since I've touched research (never tried the overhauled research system).

I was wondering, now when you need to research in an NPC station - is the 10% tax referring to 10% of the NPC BPO price? And also is it 10% per level ML / PL, or 10% each time you install a research job?

And, do the NPC stations still have slot limitations like they use to, or do they have infinite research slots now?

Thanks.

No, the bp price doesn't come into the calcs. See the calculation information here: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/industry-3rd-party-developers/

Tax is used in the calculation. The values for each level are determined by the table listed in the link. Also, see this for more information on industry calculations: http://eve-industry.org/export/IndustryFormulas.pdf

There are no slot limitations anymore but the more you use a system, the higher the system index gets and affects your price for doing production.

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Darkstar01
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-11-23 08:18:19 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Darkstar01 wrote:
It's been a while since I've touched research (never tried the overhauled research system).

I was wondering, now when you need to research in an NPC station - is the 10% tax referring to 10% of the NPC BPO price? And also is it 10% per level ML / PL, or 10% each time you install a research job?

And, do the NPC stations still have slot limitations like they use to, or do they have infinite research slots now?

Thanks.

No, the bp price doesn't come into the calcs. See the calculation information here: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/industry-3rd-party-developers/

Tax is used in the calculation. The values for each level are determined by the table listed in the link. Also, see this for more information on industry calculations: http://eve-industry.org/export/IndustryFormulas.pdf

There are no slot limitations anymore but the more you use a system, the higher the system index gets and affects your price for doing production.


I tried to install a ME research job for a capital ship blueprint that's already well researched, and the job cost was higher than the price of the blueprint itself....am I missing something here, or is that just how much it costs for using the NPC station?

Thanks.
Hochopepa
Creative Research and Production Services
#4 - 2015-11-23 14:43:05 UTC
That depends entirely upon the system you are doing your research in. If it is a heavily used system, say Jita, then your research costs are going to be ridiculous. However, going to an out of the way system that no one is really using, your costs are going to be significantly reduced.
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#5 - 2015-12-06 08:00:30 UTC
You can't research in Jita.

The rules on research costs are usually something like this:
They decrease with distance from the trade hub. Longer travel to pick up BPs = extra hassle.
If there's lowsec between the research system and the trade hub (or if it's a lowsec system), research prices are very cheap. Most hisec industrialists don't like low, but if you know how to deal with gatecamps, you can research cheaper. I did some research in one of those systems once. A whole bunch of industrials tried to kill me.

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Tau Cabalander
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Working Stiffs
#6 - 2015-12-07 22:24:23 UTC
BPO have an arbitrary multiplier. It is modelled on the skill rank multiplier.

The higher the multiplier, the higher the cost.

Hence capitals cost more to research than frigates.

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Ships: Sized 20/30/40/50/60 for frigate/destroyer/cruiser/battlecruiser/battleship, with industrials sized as cruisers, and multiplied by 20 for T2. Capitals are 200, except for supercarriers at 400 and titans at 600.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2015-12-11 00:49:03 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
You can't research in Jita.

The rules on research costs are usually something like this:
They decrease with distance from the trade hub. Longer travel to pick up BPs = extra hassle.
If there's lowsec between the research system and the trade hub (or if it's a lowsec system), research prices are very cheap. Most hisec industrialists don't like low, but if you know how to deal with gatecamps, you can research cheaper. I did some research in one of those systems once. A whole bunch of industrials tried to kill me.


I keep four expensive blueprints (10/20 Talos x2, 10/20 Brutix x1, 10/18 Brutix x1) in a lowsec system and copy them 24/7 in a station. Very cheap.

Just note that lowsec stations that sell BPOs often see people buy the BPO and remotely research them (which, if they sell ship BPOs, may lead to quite high research indicies).

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