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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2015-11-18 18:53:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
A bit of more constructive news in the midst of all the recent devestation, it appears an interstellar consortium has been founded by Chemal Tech, Eifyr & Co, Intaki Bank, Mordu's Legion, Ytiri, and Zoar & Sons.

Given the participation of the Intaki Bank, Mordu's Legion, and Ytiri in this venture, I look forward to seeing where it progresses.

Ytiri is especially a curious case, I must note. While notionally independent and a corporation without initial patronage from the Big Eight, their stations bear KK livery. I can only assume that KK provided at least some amount of mezzanine funding, and so they enjoy a close relationship.

(edit; oh, and I like the name 'Consortium.' Nice selection, marketing people!)

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Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#2 - 2015-11-18 19:07:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Because capsuleers really need even more dominance than they already have.

Greed runs the galaxy.
Anslo
Scope Works
#3 - 2015-11-18 19:17:42 UTC
I'll take one.

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Sahriah BloodStone
No.Mercy
Triumvirate.
#4 - 2015-11-18 19:25:29 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Because capsuleers really need even more dominance than they already have.

Greed runs the galaxy.


Capsuleer dominance will continue to rise regardless. Do you think that there wouldn't eventually be Capsuleers who were enterprising enough to step into the station market?

By taking steps to secure a regulated market now, they are at the very least ensuring some sort of empire oversight along with the ability to specify exact designs and security measures. All those baseliner lifeboats that we are blocked from targetting? You can bet Capsuleer-made stations would not hold the same restrictions.

Besides Ms. Kernher, God has already shown a preference for a more open-minded and economically strong empire. You should embrace these new ideals and have faith that all shall be well.

Sahriah Bloodstone

No.Mercy // Triumvirate

"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#5 - 2015-11-18 20:36:17 UTC
I wish Eifyr & Co. the best of success in this project, it is good to see our Corporations participating as peers to such other esteemed names.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#6 - 2015-11-18 20:58:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Arrendis
Samira Kernher wrote:
Because capsuleers really need even more dominance than they already have.

Greed runs the galaxy.


Personally, I'm looking forward to infrastructure more directly suited to the needs of the capsuleer. If nothing else, it's likely that the primary control systems for that kind of infrastructure will be pod-based, reducing the number of baseliners put at risk. If they're sufficiently broad in the applications they explore, perhaps we can even break out of the self-reinforcing spiral that has so many capsuleers focus solely on destruction, because it's what so many tell them is all they're really good for.

Research, industrial development, and other fields are already dabbled in by capsuleer groups - dedicated facilities made to interface with the pod... they could prove incredibly beneficial to the entire cluster.

Also, I can neither confirm nor deny reports that certain entities near the Mordu's Legion home systems may or may not make significant investments in this new consortium. It's all scurrilous slander intended to discredit Upwell, I'm sure.
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#7 - 2015-11-18 20:59:34 UTC
This has made the graphs in my personal portfolio do funny things.

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
Spero Ohmiras
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-11-18 21:33:41 UTC
Arteu and the Legion in concert again, there's cause for acclaim. That Ytiri are a consort is gratifying, personally, as their agents have proved reliable partners over the years.

May Wind-of-the-West carry the vision.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-11-19 03:39:19 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
Because capsuleers really need even more dominance than they already have.

Greed runs the galaxy.


Personally, I'm looking forward to infrastructure more directly suited to the needs of the capsuleer. If nothing else, it's likely that the primary control systems for that kind of infrastructure will be pod-based, reducing the number of baseliners put at risk. If they're sufficiently broad in the applications they explore, perhaps we can even break out of the self-reinforcing spiral that has so many capsuleers focus solely on destruction, because it's what so many tell them is all they're really good for.

Research, industrial development, and other fields are already dabbled in by capsuleer groups - dedicated facilities made to interface with the pod... they could prove incredibly beneficial to the entire cluster.

Also, I can neither confirm nor deny reports that certain entities near the Mordu's Legion home systems may or may not make significant investments in this new consortium. It's all scurrilous slander intended to discredit Upwell, I'm sure.


So, space stations whose administrators are capsuleers in pods.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#10 - 2015-11-19 04:21:22 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
So, space stations whose administrators are capsuleers in pods.


Administrators? Hardly the limits of what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking more of things like researchers who are directly hooked into the results and testing processes in real-time, unburdened by the limitations of the human body in how much time they can devote to the task. Ideally, multi-pod capacity to allow multiple, in effect, biological expert systems to monitor different aspects of every strain of research, every production line, to maximize effectiveness and results, to streamline the process, evaluate where improvements in the process or in the product can be made.

And again... just the beginning. The merest scratching of the surface of possibility.
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#11 - 2015-11-19 06:15:48 UTC
Hmm. Comparing the Consortium to Crielere? Seems hardly appropriate, all things considered...

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Arrendis
TK Corp
#12 - 2015-11-19 06:31:57 UTC
I don't know - as a joint effort between large corporate entities across multiple nationalities that's almost certainly going to annoy Rabbit... I'd say it's apt.

Let's hope that Mordu's Legion is up to the task of defending them against the pirates. Though, of course, we'd be more than happy to handle the security for any facilities in Pure Blind, Fade, Deklein, or parts north... for appropriate considerations.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-11-19 08:52:42 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
I don't know - as a joint effort between large corporate entities across multiple nationalities that's almost certainly going to annoy Rabbit... I'd say it's apt.

Let's hope that Mordu's Legion is up to the task of defending them against the pirates. Though, of course, we'd be more than happy to handle the security for any facilities in Pure Blind, Fade, Deklein, or parts north... for appropriate considerations.


The general reputation of your employer might make that a tad difficult.

Mordu's Legion, supposedly, had a good track record.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Seraphim Risen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-11-19 12:24:30 UTC
Anslo wrote:
I'll take one.


Only one? You think too small.

Never not badpost.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#15 - 2015-11-19 15:39:30 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
The general reputation of your employer might make that a tad difficult.

Mordu's Legion, supposedly, had a good track record.


The general reputation of my employer includes being the single most persistent and effective enemies of the Guristas in all of New Eden. Put simply, there is no-one with more experience in keeping them from their objectives.

You'll notice, despite all the stupid things our pilots have done with their supercapitals, it wasn't one of our Wyverns that Rabbit's boys stole.
Sahriah BloodStone
No.Mercy
Triumvirate.
#16 - 2015-11-19 19:22:20 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
The general reputation of your employer might make that a tad difficult.

Mordu's Legion, supposedly, had a good track record.


The general reputation of my employer includes being the single most persistent and effective enemies of the Guristas in all of New Eden. Put simply, there is no-one with more experience in keeping them from their objectives.

You'll notice, despite all the stupid things our pilots have done with their supercapitals, it wasn't one of our Wyverns that Rabbit's boys stole.


I think the empires would favour a more trustworthy and..proven entity like Mordu's Legion. A persistent and effective force means little when its chance of turning on you for profit is high.

Sahriah Bloodstone

No.Mercy // Triumvirate

"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "
Arrendis
TK Corp
#17 - 2015-11-19 19:54:50 UTC
Sahriah BloodStone wrote:
I think the empires would favour a more trustworthy and..proven entity like Mordu's Legion. A persistent and effective force means little when its chance of turning on you for profit is high.


Please show me the last time we violated an agreement.

I'll wait.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-11-20 07:02:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Arrendis wrote:
Sahriah BloodStone wrote:
I think the empires would favour a more trustworthy and..proven entity like Mordu's Legion. A persistent and effective force means little when its chance of turning on you for profit is high.


Please show me the last time we violated an agreement.

I'll wait.


But you can't deny that the name of 'Imperium' conjures all kinds of knee-jerk negative response in the capsuleer community, at least, anyone who isn't 'Imperium'. If an Empire employs the Imperium to do their bidding they risk a serious PR clusterfuck with reaction-ist capsuleers, of which there are many.

Then you will hear lots of accusations of 'sell out' or 'conspiracy' or tinfoil shenanigans and the usual 'Grr Goons' nonsense. A real darn troublesome crap any bureaucracy wouldn't enjoy navigating. As it is now, the general perception about dealing with the Imperium is like, as an Amarrian might put it, striking a deal with Molok.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#19 - 2015-11-20 07:37:54 UTC
The dear lady's request for an example of outright treachery and treaty breaking remains unanswered. Say what you will about the so called Imperium, but they have a history of operating with a sort of obscene honesty. When they are your friend, they treat you as a friend. When you stop being their friend they tell you before they kill you. And for everyone else they advertise clearly that it is a free for all.

Savage and sadistic? Yes. Dishonest. No, strictly speaking.

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-11-20 07:45:40 UTC
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:
The dear lady's request for an example of outright treachery and treaty breaking remains unanswered. Say what you will about the so called Imperium, but they have a history of operating with a sort of obscene honesty. When they are your friend, they treat you as a friend. When you stop being their friend they tell you before they kill you. And for everyone else they advertise clearly that it is a free for all.

Savage and sadistic? Yes. Dishonest. No, strictly speaking.


I cannot answer that question because I have no evidence. Most I can speak of is perception on the Imperium. As you might know, capsuleers seem to enjoy creating or appointing a boogeyman, a villainous overlord or just plain someone to blame for everything that has gone wrong in their lives. Someone or someones to be their 'Molok'.

As for now, that entity is the Imperium, hence the possible outrage and all that nonsense drama that might follow if the Imperium is employed by any of the Big Four.

Point out that the Imperium has always fulfilled their words will only result with them either ignoring that fact or bringing up that the 'devil' or 'Molok' does not outright lie. You know that deal. Biases, truth being less power than perception and blah blah blah.

Hence why I mentioned it would be difficult for the Imperium to be chosen over Mordu's Legion, which didn't drag around that kind of baggage.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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