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X-Large Shield Extenders

Author
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#61 - 2015-12-02 05:06:45 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Joe Risalo wrote:
would be nice for a passive rattlesnake to be worth a crap again..

It was only ever worth anything before because active tanking was shít and not everyone can be bothered to bring logi to help, especially when your PVE income is substantially higher when you run sites solo (which is generally easy if you have a good setup). You can still run PVE just fine in a passive regen Rattlesnake but its performance is and always has been sub-par. There has never been a ship that wasn't sub-par for passive regen tanking, including the Drake.


Rattlesnake used to be able to pull off a 1500 EHP/s passive tank with a t2 fit...
It was awesome...
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2015-12-02 05:13:18 UTC
Joe Risalo wrote:
Rattlesnake used to be able to pull off a 1500 EHP/s passive tank with a t2 fit...
It was awesome...

I wasn't aware anything had changed as far as passive tanking, but I do know the Rattlesnake gets more like 1000-1100 EHP/s with T2 fit. What changed?

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unidenify
Deaf Armada
#63 - 2015-12-02 14:02:33 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Joe Risalo wrote:
Rattlesnake used to be able to pull off a 1500 EHP/s passive tank with a t2 fit...
It was awesome...

I wasn't aware anything had changed as far as passive tanking, but I do know the Rattlesnake gets more like 1000-1100 EHP/s with T2 fit. What changed?


probably nerf on 5%/level to 4% resist/level
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#64 - 2015-12-02 15:44:42 UTC
Valacus wrote:
Lady Rift wrote:
Valacus wrote:
Makes sense to me. Battleships in general aren't all that common, but shield battleships are definitely the ones seen the least. It's way easier to get a fat armor tank on a battleship than a shield tank. Small shield extenders don't get used period, and large on used on the second smallest ship size. It makes no sense that there isn't a larger shield extender for battleships. You can easily get two 1600 plates on any armor battleship, and they're worth twice as much.

"Oh, but shield regen!"

Which contributes nothing to your buffer. Either you get reps or you explode. No tiny shield regen is going to save you, or even make you last another second. Shield regen has only ever mattered in PvE and that's the only place it ever will matter.



that only applies to large scale. shield regen can be used and makes a difference in smaller scale engagements. Also ASB.


Even in small scale base shield regen is meaningless. Even in PvE, you have to fit modules dedicated to passive regen in order to make it effective at all. Base shield regen is really only a multiplier for any modules you fit geared towards passive shield regen. By itself it is useless. The amount of time it takes to regenerate your shields is massive. And what the hell does ASB have to do with anything? Active and buffer tank don't really mix, so there's no discussion on that subject to be had.



ASB's are something that shield have that armor don't just like armor can fit worth more ehp.