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God says: Transcranial Microcontrollers, Yes; House Ardishapur, No

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Paladin Genghis Khanid
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2015-11-17 02:56:55 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
God has chosen the final two representatives in the Amarr Championships, and slave-loving Transcranial Microcontroller-hating House Ardishapur is not among them. God does not care how conservative and traditional you are. God does not even care how well you have performed your job by restoring order to the Ammatar Mandate after the Karsoth era. If you oppose any means of slave control, then you are unworthy to be Emperor.

Let us celebrate, Chosen, by stuffing our slaves' brains full of Transcranial Microcontrollers, legally, now and forever. Amen. Amarr Victor.


Based on your words, can I assume you are a slave-hater?

Tell me, Nauplius, why do we take slaves?
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-11-17 06:31:24 UTC
I'm seeing that Shutaq's flowing locks are spreading across the male Amarrian Capsuleer population.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Goldfinch
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-11-17 06:39:45 UTC

Nauplius wrote:
But House Sarum was supposed to be hardliners on the Reclaiming, and what did we get from Jamyl? A horrific, vile, indefensible freeing of 9th Generation slaves. It seems that a House's opinions on the Reclaiming issue may be somewhat orthogonal to that House's opinions on the Slavery issue.


Educate yourself, preacher. The Empress no longer belongs to her House when she ascended to the Imperial Throne. She has no obligation to the tenets of that House, nor any other for that matter. She is the Voice of God and her decrees are Law.

We find it ironic that you decry House Sarum while proudly wearing their colors in your DED portrait. The hypocrisy of Sani Sabik, revealed.

\J/

veiled and bound

my origin story (on eve-backstage)

Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#24 - 2015-11-17 09:48:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkoth 24
Goldfinch wrote:
Educate yourself, preacher. The Empress no longer belongs to her House when she ascended to the Imperial Throne. She has no obligation to the tenets of that House, nor any other for that matter. She is the Voice of God and her decrees are Law.

We find it ironic that you decry House Sarum while proudly wearing their colors in your DED portrait. The hypocrisy of Sani Sabik, revealed.

In the case of dead empress, she belonged neither to her House, nor to your imaginary god, as her very existence violated the doctrine of Sacred Flesh. The False Voice of the Fake God - that's the irony.

Anyway, we will probably see her another "return" one day. Or we will see Empire's fall - whatever will come first.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2015-11-17 12:29:08 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Goldfinch wrote:
Educate yourself, preacher. The Empress no longer belongs to her House when she ascended to the Imperial Throne. She has no obligation to the tenets of that House, nor any other for that matter. She is the Voice of God and her decrees are Law.

We find it ironic that you decry House Sarum while proudly wearing their colors in your DED portrait. The hypocrisy of Sani Sabik, revealed.

In the case of dead empress, she belonged neither to her House, nor to your imaginary god, as her very existence violated the doctrine of Sacred Flesh. The False Voice of the Fake God - that's the irony.

Anyway, we will probably see her another "return" one day. Or we will see Empire's fall - whatever will come first.


Where is your evidence that she violated the Sacred Flesh rule?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#26 - 2015-11-17 12:34:47 UTC
Paladin Genghis Khanid wrote:

Based on your words, can I assume you are a slave-hater?

Tell me, Nauplius, why do we take slaves?


God is not only a god of love, but also a god of wrath. Just as God wants to see his Chosen demonstrating acts of love towards one another, he also wants to see his Chosen performing acts of wrath towards those creatures which God created specifically to be objects of wrath — slaves.

So yes, I am a slave-hater; I hate slaves with a seething, frothing hatred.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#27 - 2015-11-17 12:35:43 UTC
Goldfinch wrote:

We find it ironic that you decry House Sarum while proudly wearing their colors in your DED portrait. The hypocrisy of Sani Sabik, revealed.


I am a proponent of a Reunified Amarr-Blood Raider Empire-Covenant, a union of gold and red.
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-11-17 15:36:04 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Where is your evidence that she violated the Sacred Flesh rule?

Mr. Blake, by your dementia you represent here the degradation and decay of the Empire.

The combat log shows that at 117-08-21 18:09 Jamyl Sarum's capsule was desroyed by Drifters forces. Should we specially mark the word "capsule" for you?
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#29 - 2015-11-17 16:07:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemun Khanid
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Where is your evidence that she violated the Sacred Flesh rule?

Mr. Blake, by your dementia you represent here the degradation and decay of the Empire.

The combat log shows that at 117-08-21 18:09 Jamyl Sarum's capsule was desroyed by Drifters forces. Should we specially mark the word "capsule" for you?


And she hasn't been seen since. You should really get your facts straight and some sort of grasp on current events before running your mouth and insulting people of far higher character than yourself.

(Combat logs are not lore/pf but game mechanics, and besides that a capsule does not equate to a clone)

Daemun of Khanid

Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#30 - 2015-11-17 16:22:44 UTC
Daemun Khanid wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Where is your evidence that she violated the Sacred Flesh rule?

Mr. Blake, by your dementia you represent here the degradation and decay of the Empire.

The combat log shows that at 117-08-21 18:09 Jamyl Sarum's capsule was desroyed by Drifters forces. Should we specially mark the word "capsule" for you?


And she hasn't been seen since. You should really get your facts straight and some sort of grasp on current events before running your mouth and insulting people of far higher character than yourself.

(Combat logs are not lore/pf but game mechanics, and besides that a capsule does not equate to a clone)

Deal with it, daemun.

Capsule

Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#31 - 2015-11-17 16:25:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Utari Onzo
I'd just like to point out that it is known from the first Trial capsuleers could champion in, that Heirs may use Capsules to pilot their ships. A Capsule is not the means by which we clone, it is simply a technological tool by which we are able to outperform baseline operated vessels. The Capsule has been around far longer then CONCORD approved cloning after all.

The thing that makes us Capsuleers what we are is the implant we all carry in our heads, the neural burner. That flash of an instant, cooking our brains and sending a copy of our brains, that is what defines our difference. No Heir is allowed to use a trans-neural scanner, and nor the Empress.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#32 - 2015-11-17 16:31:01 UTC
True imperials: even when faced to the facts - keep on spread stupidility instead. And call it "belief".
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#33 - 2015-11-17 16:37:23 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
True imperials: even when faced to the facts - keep on spread stupidility instead. And call it "belief".


So the fact that the Capsule, which was first seen in use in the first Caldari/Gallente war, hundreds of years before the spread of cloning technology, is something you'd like to just ignore? A Capsule in and of itself does not allow you to clone, this is a fact no matter how you dearly wish to ignore it. But please, continue demonstrating your ignorance of history, science and technology in this small matter. I can see the fingers in your ears as you go "lalalalala" from my console :)

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#34 - 2015-11-17 16:39:53 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
True imperials: even when faced to the facts - keep on spread stupidility instead. And call it "belief".


^ This ^

((Though they are right on the capsule thing, clone isn't always a given. Unless I read eve source wrong))
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2015-11-17 17:34:20 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Where is your evidence that she violated the Sacred Flesh rule?

Mr. Blake, by your dementia you represent here the degradation and decay of the Empire.

The combat log shows that at 117-08-21 18:09 Jamyl Sarum's capsule was desroyed by Drifters forces. Should we specially mark the word "capsule" for you?


That just proves she died.

It doesn't prove she was cloned.

There are other explanations.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2015-11-17 17:51:31 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
True imperials: even when faced to the facts - keep on spread stupidility instead. And call it "belief".


Did you miss the religious overtones in your own story, brush-your-shoes-with-Nanoblack?
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#37 - 2015-11-17 18:06:51 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:
True imperials: even when faced to the facts - keep on spread stupidility instead. And call it "belief".


Did you miss the religious overtones in your own story, brush-your-shoes-with-Nanoblack?

He needs to go home and get his ******* shine box.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#38 - 2015-11-17 20:51:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
All else aside, the matter of Empress Jamyl I's return during the Elder invasion certainly raises some brows. It is known that Empress Jamyl I committed Shathol'Syn, but also then reappeared some years later. Suspicions at the time were that she may have indeed cloned herself. The question, while resolved quickly, was not without some gravity.

Now, obviously, I have no inside information on this, and I will refrain from theorizing for the sake of the sensibilities of the State's allies. Still, the historical record is interesting.

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2015-11-18 01:47:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Deitra Vess wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:
True imperials: even when faced to the facts - keep on spread stupidility instead. And call it "belief".


^ This ^

((Though they are right on the capsule thing, clone isn't always a given. Unless I read eve source wrong))


It's true for plenty of people.

That's why we have terms like 'cognitive bias', 'cognitive dissonance' and etc. It's also why propaganda works.

I am sure if you sent an Amarr priest to a MInmatar shaman and have them argue about spirituality, the priest will use circular reasoning to argue against the assertion that there is no God, while the shaman will do the same to argue against assertion that Spirits do not exist.

((Btw, Daemun, game mechanics are part of RP like it or not, unless they cannot be explained logically like why space acts like an ocean. If you want to assert something that can be demonstrated in-game, you better have a record to prove it. In Eve, everything you do will have consequence and that will show up in your RP like a stubborn bloodstain like it or not. Never assert anything that can be demonstrated in-game you can't back it up, i.e. never claim that you are the best pirate lord of Great Wildlands if you do not have the killboard record showing that you kill way more than you lose and a large number of regulars who has laid witness to your amazing interdiction skills and charisma in weaseling any ransom from any individual you feel like ransoming))

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Paladin Genghis Khanid
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2015-11-18 04:45:56 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Paladin Genghis Khanid wrote:

Based on your words, can I assume you are a slave-hater?

Tell me, Nauplius, why do we take slaves?


God is not only a god of love, but also a god of wrath. Just as God wants to see his Chosen demonstrating acts of love towards one another, he also wants to see his Chosen performing acts of wrath towards those creatures which God created specifically to be objects of wrath — slaves.

So yes, I am a slave-hater; I hate slaves with a seething, frothing hatred.


So in your opinion the Faithful take slaves for no other purpose than to unleash wraith upon said slaves?

Do I understand you correctly?
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