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Shield Tank Legion - huh?

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Caligula Gaius Claudian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2015-11-13 21:52:43 UTC
Hello,

finally decided to bring it here. While i'm out of pvp for some sort of vacation if you like i decided to run missions. Now i'm 1 step to lvl3 and was thinking what ship to stick with. My Confessor was doing absolutely well but i'm sure that lvl3 would be not an easy task for it. And since i'd like to taste something new... here what i come up with

please don't blame to hard since it's just a potential set up with i may try anyway but i want to check with pilots if anyone had already did that.

This toon is pure Amarr specialist and can't fly anything other than Amarr, so please take that in mind if you'd like to recommend something else.

[Legion, shield fit]

Heat Sink II x3
Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Dread Guristas Thermal Dissipation Field
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner

Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M x5

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II

Legion Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


thanks in advance.
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-11-13 22:14:19 UTC
Is this for low sec?

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Caligula Gaius Claudian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-11-13 22:20:18 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Is this for low sec?


I see where you come from, no it's not. But only with Cov Ops subs it gives you enough med slots, and i just put a cloack in high probably without a reason.
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2015-11-13 22:26:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
The tank is total overkill for level 3s. The covert sub gimps your DPS.

Do you not have armor skills?

Why not use a HAC?

Confessor will work fine for level 3s.

Without putting too much thought into something I wouldn't use, this is how I would roll:

[Legion, shield fit mk2]
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Fourier Transform Tracking Program

Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field
Dread Guristas EM Ward Field

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers

Range is important for good completion time as is a good warp speed. Even with the long range ammo it still out DPSs your fit by more than 25% with a range out past 40km where your setup is shooting to 25km. The tank is on the thin side against EM/therm but more than I have on my Demios which works just fine if my Proteus is not close by.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Caligula Gaius Claudian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-11-14 00:18:58 UTC
thx for sharing your thoughts on my question

i was using beams thinking about more alpha and taking down npc's from greater range. Your setup is def outperforming in regard of dps and i might consider this flying with scorches.

the whole idea is to make something non-standard )) i still was thinking about my old shield harby to run those lvl3's
Pookoko
Sigma Sagittarii Inc.
#6 - 2015-11-14 01:49:37 UTC
It also depends a lot on what rats you are shooting at. Against Angels, shield tanked Legion with HAMs is an option no matter how lol that sounds on paper (natural resit vs. explosives n being able to shoot explosive dmg). However, I wouldn't say it's much better than Sacrilege with similar shield or armor setup, 'cause Sac gets drones which come handy vs. frigs.

Having said that, If you want to shield tank and shoot lasers in lvl 3, normally I would recommend looking at Phantasm. It is definitely something different you seem to be looking for and a very cool ship to look at/fly in.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#7 - 2015-11-14 02:58:38 UTC
imo confessor is a bit too low on dps/projection to make for happy level 3 running.


this is what I'd try, most lv3s are just warp in and blap stuff as fast as you can. tank is probably more important for a newb, but pumping out 700 dps out to 30km tank isn't really needed in lv3s. and you can hit out at 100km with aurora.

if you are worried about cap life swap a tracking comp for a cap injector. I tried a proteus for blitzing and it had pretty bad cap but never really needed more. npcs die way too fast to be a worry.
[Legion, lv3 beam blitz]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II

50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet M

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization

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Caligula Gaius Claudian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2015-11-15 10:15:02 UTC
[Harbi for lvl 3's] i decided to stick to my old harbi fit instead, hope it still fine to run those taking into the mind the latest CB changes. this i sis about 80m isk and making around 700 dps which is more than enough for lvl3's.

Heat Sink II x3
Reactive Armor Hardener
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II

50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Large Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell
Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M x5
[Empty High slot]

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Anti-Thermal Pump I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Acolyte II x5
Hobgoblin II x5