Science & Industry

In null sec. 70-80 million ISK per hour per toon. Even losing a Skiff this weekend wasn't much of a set back for me. I use to have to mine all week just to touch what I made this weekend. My advice quit being scared of getting blown up , and make the move to null.

Here's the math for you. Using an example of 5 hours a day 3 days a week and 3 toons.

70 million X 3 = 210 million an hour.

210 million X 5= 1.5 billion a day

1.5 billion X 3 = 4.5 Billion a week

I mined in high sec pretty much most of my time on EVE. I avoided null simply because before the risk to ISK ratio wasn't high enough. With recent and incoming changes it now is. What kind of demand do you think Citadels are going to put on the market? Huge demand. Quit grinding in high, and move to null where you'll make enough ISK to have have pew pew fun, and still have ISK leftover.

Should add that's with a maxed Hulk and boosts. I use Skiffs since they tank the null rats pretty good. It is also based of the best null ores, and there is more than enough of that to go around. Since currently I can't use ABC ore crystals I make 10 million ISK less an hour per toon. It is also based off refined value and not raw ore value. The difference between a Hulk and a Skiff with max boosts is only 6 cycles an hour. So between that and the fact I can't use ABC ore crystals then taking that into effect the math checks out.

Opps

No thank you, I already work 12 a day

My Corp also has a very good ore buyback program. I also keep my toons in the belt using Enormous Frieght Containers. With three toons I can fill one in about 45 mins.

Here is my formula

3600 (minutes in an hour) ÷ Cycle Time = Number Of Cycles In An Hour

Cycles In An Hour X m3 Mine Per Cycle = m3 Mined Per Hour

m3 Mined Per Hour ÷ m3 Of Each Unit Of Ore Type = Equals Units Of Ore Type Mined In An Hour

I then input the value for the last equation into the spreadsheet for my corp's buyback program to figure out my hourly total.

Being in an Alliance takes care of most issues. For example we have a good intel channel which warns us if enemies show up. And if you mine with reds in system that's kind of your own fault. We have the option to sell our ores to the alliance or to local industrialists which takes care of the hauling issue. Let me know if you want to give Null a try, it beats High Sec mining hands down.

Currently mining in a field just litered with eves most valuable minerals too mine and yet I'm alone. Besides an orca pilot reping me and an aliance member AFK in station I'm alone and will be that way for the next 12 hours. An odd neutral or hostile may enter occasionally but for 99.9% of my time out here where I'm situated no one bothers me, and the mining is very good.

Worst days are when we have worm holes, who bring in hostiles but besides those odd times null if you know the right people is a super profitable way to mine if not the most profitable. Why more don't do it is beyond me. I think people are simply scared, and don't like taking risks, but hell for the amount of isk to be earned and fun to be had why the hell not.

Too the one guy. talking about constantly hitting dscan. I'm typing this while I mine, no Dscan neccesry.

I can confirm as somebody who hunts miners and bears in 00 -> if they aint afk or dumb no way to catch them

So yes, it's safer in 00 than in high sec, populate 00, we need more prey :O

Honestly, i know the OP is just doing the math and not actually out there every day mining in null and pulling in those numbers.
I have mined all over Eve, and i will be damned if a freaking nuet or enough rats don't get me to dock up. Im talking about deep space null as well, where it takes several minutes with 5 T2 drones in my barge fighting off 3 or more rats. Sure i have made some isk vs time while mining in null, but like others have said, there is risk involved, not to mention shipping costs unless your building on site. Either way, all it takes is a swarm to come thru, and before you know it you have to move your whole operation and start all over.

Additionally, if your able to stay on grid long enough to fill your cargo with Spod or any other ABC ore it would be possible.
Lets do your math divided by 3 since i only run one account.
70 mill / 3 = 23.3 mill per hr, per toon, which also breaks down to 11.66666 mill per half hour. I suppose that makes sense, and i can hit about 80% of that in high sec with orca support mining Veld/Scordite in a T2 barge with pretty good skills. Oh and there is a crap ton of buyers who dont mind traveling to pick it up from you.

So if you could stay on grid consistently or up to 5 hrs a day, which is like a second job, i could see you pulling in about a billion isk that way. But i have rarely seen or lived in what was supposed to be a dead end, or "quiet" area and been left alone to mine juicy rocks all freaking day without some Neut coming in forcing me to dock up and play the waiting game. But i dont think there is much difference between what your doing and what most others in high sec are doing. You are getting nearly the same results, and your locked into mining so much in order to pay for your other accounts.

I agree that mining in null can be safer than high sec, but your constantly watching local, checking d-scan, and putting all your goods into a station that can be taken by the end of a week. Oh, did i mention the cloaky camper, you know, the A-hole who sits in your mining system every day, so guess what, time to clone jump to mining base #2, aka high sec..... Geesh,,,,, Whatever.

Hehe i love the mentality here, that's the reason most miners got caught with pants down when we rolled our null static, but i guess in the grand scheme of things it's inconsequential for the average miner and i haven't been in wh for a long time now.