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To PvP or not PvP that is the question
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Avvy
Doomheim
#41 - 2015-11-13 12:30:37 UTC
Trudeaux Margaret wrote:
Avvy wrote:
Trudeaux Margaret wrote:

I think one of the things that people have been trying to tell you is that you're going to lose ships anyway, especially when you're first starting out. In this game, no ship is going to last, even if you're mainly a PvE'r -- it's gonna blow up eventually, somehow.


I know, but I already knew that. It's no different to PvP in other games, the basics are the same it's just the details that are different. Getting to know those details will take time.

Trudeaux Margaret wrote:

More SP is helpful, sure,...


Yeah, and that's all I'm really saying about having more sp.

Trudeaux Margaret wrote:

... but how long are you going to put off the gaining of practical experience? If I may draw an analogy, you're like the guy who sits in his house reading self-help books about how to make friends, but never leaves to actually try to meet anyone.


Like I said in another post presently my main game is GW2, so when I'm ready to spend more time here than there. In the meantime, I'll keep advancing its training. It's one of the reason I'm considering the test server as it is something you can do very casually. But in GW2 I'm mainly just playing in the new expansion content, so that means time there will be limited before it starts to get dull and very repetitive. Before that happens though I should be starting here.




ROTFLMAO. You remind me of my sister-in-law, you have an answer for everything.
I can see you now with your many "helpful" skillpoints, in a Barghest that you purchased with a PLEX. Proudly you'll jump from Ichoriyra to Akidagi, ready to take on the World of EVE Online!, only to get eaten alive and podded right at the gate.

Then you'll go to General Discussion and rant about how unbalanced the PvP is in this game. P

Look, I'm not the kind of person for 1v1 pvp either, not at this time, and my killboard history definitely reflects that. But I love gang and fleet pvp, and there's plenty of that and a lot that can be learned from that. Instead of sitting in a station doing skill queue, you could join a corp where you could fly in a fleet, contributing in some way: tackle, EWAR, logistics. At least you'd be playing the game.


You clearly don't know me.

PvP will never be perfectly balanced unless every character/ship was the same, even then your connection can make a difference.

I also don't expect to be over-powered in PvP, my game isn't about look at me, see what ship I can fly, I must be great. My game is about tactics and strategy.

But as I presently spend all my gaming time in GW2 (except the skill queue here) I wouldn't have much time to spend here.
Trudeaux Margaret
University of Caille
#42 - 2015-11-13 12:45:22 UTC
Avvy wrote:

You clearly don't know me.

PvP will never be perfectly balanced unless every character/ship was the same, even then your connection can make a difference.

I also don't expect to be over-powered in PvP, my game isn't about look at me, see what ship I can fly, I must be great. My game is about tactics and strategy.

But as I presently spend all my gaming time in GW2 (except the skill queue here) I wouldn't have much time to spend here.


Well, I'm unsure as to why you even made this thread if you're not interested in actual PvP right now. If you're going to be playing GW2 for the foreseeable future and you're just logging in here to optimize your skill queue, then you've been given all the help that can be given.

As noted earlier in the thread, you already have a ton of SP -- more than enough to get started in PvP. You've got to get over your aversion to having your ships blown up while you ponder "tactics and strategy" though, and that's why people are telling you to start with frigates (no matter what style of pvp you choose) because they're cheaper.



> anyone willing to give me like a 5 min politics crash course?

> grr goons, lowsec is full of elitist sh*s, all roads lead to the bittervet pl
Avvy
Doomheim
#43 - 2015-11-13 12:51:21 UTC
Trudeaux Margaret wrote:
Avvy wrote:

You clearly don't know me.

PvP will never be perfectly balanced unless every character/ship was the same, even then your connection can make a difference.

I also don't expect to be over-powered in PvP, my game isn't about look at me, see what ship I can fly, I must be great. My game is about tactics and strategy.

But as I presently spend all my gaming time in GW2 (except the skill queue here) I wouldn't have much time to spend here.


Well, I'm unsure as to why you even made this thread if you're not interested in actual PvP right now. If you're going to be playing GW2 for the foreseeable future and you're just logging in here to optimize your skill queue, then you've been given all the help that can be given.

As noted earlier in the thread, you already have a ton of SP -- more than enough to get started in PvP. You've got to get over your aversion to having your ships blown up while you ponder "tactics and strategy" though, and that's why people are telling you to start with frigates (no matter what style of pvp you choose) because they're cheaper.





That's funny, I think even CCP say something like, preparation is the key to success.

There's nothing wrong in preparing.

Well I shall be starting with frigates, T1 frigate and destroyers are all I can fly, other than shuttles.


You are right the original question is this thread has been answered.



So if they want to close this thread, they may do so.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2015-11-15 11:52:17 UTC
Preparation is good, but practice is better (in addition). For example, A while ago I fitted a couple of different T1 frigs / dessies and tried them all against everything solo I had an idea of a winning chance, on TQ of course. I killed a couple and died a lot more, but this tought me a lot about edge cases, counter fits, limits, especially about overheating and range control. I do this from time to time also with more expensive ships (check my Svipul losses P). Without this tests you won't know exactly which ships/fits and age of players you can engage and have a chance of winning, or at least you limit your target selection more than necessary. And to be clear this works only on TQ, because on SiSi you always fight against fantasy fits / imps, and people will behave differently in fights, because lack of consequences.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#45 - 2015-11-16 20:22:59 UTC
I have a feeling - and this is just me, mind - that if you *feel* you have to ask the question then you might not be ready (in yourself).

Just a feeling, remember - and as others have said, it's more about attitude towards losing space pixels and not being attached to said space pixels than raw SPs.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
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