EVE New Citizens Q&A

Beyond personal learning differences I do believe that in the beginning of any learning curve it is often much faster to learn when you can play around with something and try non-optimal stuff to get the feel for the various aspects of things. Yes it's true that to get good at the competetive side of PvP you'll need to be on TQ but I think SiSi can definitely help a new player find his piloting style and get the feel for the various aspects of ship fitting and piloting much quicker as you can just burn through ships with no thought as to cost.

It gives you the chance to play around with fits with no regard for if it will win or not and just focus on "lets see how this changes things" attitude. Experimentation is one of the purest and best ways to learn.

OK, in the world of T1 frigates we have a couple of truly stellar support options that should be welcomed by pretty much any small gang.

1: The Maulus, hands down one of the most dangerous little support vessels in the game, well capable of shutting down heavy hitters.

2: The Vigil, any missile using gang should welcome a newbie Vigil pilot. Sit at range and be amazed as you add ~15-20% to your gang's damage output. The Navy Vigil, when it's released, will be a little powerhouse of a ship. 15km meta webs and target painting!

If you broaden your horizons a little to include the Navy and Pirate frigates then there's a plethora of potent little hulls for you to try.

1: Federation Navy Comet. It's fast and it can pack a hell of a wallop along with a half decent tank.

2: Imperial Navy Slicer. Lots of damage output at decent kiting ranges.

3: Angel Cartel Dramiel. Goes like stink even without lots of speed mods, can be run in a dual prop setup (MWD and Afterburner), and possibly the best tackle frigate in the game with plenty of GTFO'ability when things go wrong (IMHO). Selectable, non capacitor draining damage output is just extra gravy. A little on the pricey side.

Very true, but skill points help.

I've mainly done it this way, because there isn't really anything I want to do in high-sec. Usually it ends up giving negative pirate rep.

Not into mining or hauling, but if I was I'd have to do it in a frigate or destroyer as they're all I can fly other than shuttles.

I haven't even bothered to train salvage, rather use the slot for something combat related.

So day 1

Go to low-sec with starting skills in a newbro ship with civilian guns.

Day 2

Go to low-sec with a t1 frigate with t1 guns and not much in the way of support skills or navigation.


I don't need to go to low-sec to know what the result will be.



First hostile I came across, I'd have been toast within 20 seconds. That's not PvP, that's playing a sitting duck.

Yeah, I know.

But you're more likely to learn more if you can at least survive the fight for longer.

Being taken out by the first volley, won't teach you much.

You know what? WIth how many pointless excuses that you are coming up with my new answer to your title question, at least for you anyway is not PvP. Just sit in high sec and run missions all day everyday. Eventually you'll have 200 million skill points and still not know how to PvP and still die just as quickly as you will now.

I don't need excuses and I don't mission in high-sec.

Presently I'm playing skill queues online here and GW2 as my main game.

So all I'm doing with this character at the moment is preparing its skills.

And yes, I know it's better to actually do PvP to learn properly but it's also better to start with more sp for obvious reasons.

I'm not a stranger to PvP, although it is different in this game to what I'm used to.

Plus I'm aware that in starting PvP here, you will initially or most likely end up dead a lot, no matter how much sp you have.

Firstly disregard anyone that says you can't get into PVP fights and win them with low SP. My first corp had a director who was hunted down and killed in his faction battleship by a six hour old character. The killer had less SP than a new player begins with now.

Getting alphaed is rare (excluding shooting pods, I've had it happen to me exactly once, and done it to another player once myself). Skillpoints will not save you if you are in a situation where you might be alphaed - what will save you is PVP experience, which will tell you to move so the battleship can't track you.

I think one of the things that people have been trying to tell you is that you're going to lose ships anyway, especially when you're first starting out. In this game, no ship is going to last, even if you're mainly a PvE'r -- it's gonna blow up eventually, somehow.

More SP is helpful, sure, but how long are you going to put off the gaining of practical experience? If I may draw an analogy, you're like the guy who sits in his house reading self-help books about how to make friends, but never leaves to actually try to meet anyone.

ROTFLMAO. You remind me of my sister-in-law, you have an answer for everything.
I can see you now with your many "helpful" skillpoints, in a Barghest that you purchased with a PLEX. Proudly you'll jump from Ichoriyra to Akidagi, ready to take on the World of EVE Online!, only to get eaten alive and podded right at the gate.

Then you'll go to General Discussion and rant about how unbalanced the PvP is in this game.

Look, I'm not the kind of person for 1v1 pvp either, not at this time, and my killboard history definitely reflects that. But I love gang and fleet pvp, and there's plenty of that and a lot that can be learned from that. Instead of sitting in a station doing skill queue, you could join a corp where you could fly in a fleet, contributing in some way: tackle, EWAR, logistics. At least you'd be playing the game.