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Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#101 - 2015-12-02 19:20:46 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
I am not an enemy of Greater Amarria, because Greater Amarria, properly understood, includes the Sani Sabik, who in the fullness of the coming Blood Age will reunite with the Amarr Empire and crush the Minmatar under our boots.

Yeah, good luck with that Nappy. Last time you tried you got your asses handed to you by the Minmatar and the Jove.

By the way, just out of curiosity, what would happen after you destroyed all the Minmatar? Who would you morons turn against next? People like you always need a new bogeyman to demonize lest you turn on each other so, I'm just wondering, who would that be? Us "decadent" Federals or your current Caldari allies?
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#102 - 2015-12-02 19:33:29 UTC
Nick Bete wrote:
Yeah, good luck with that Nappy. Last time you tried you got your asses handed to you by the Minmatar and the Jove.

By the way, just out of curiosity, what would happen after you destroyed all the Minmatar? Who would you morons turn against next? People like you always need a new bogeyman to demonize lest you turn on each other so, I'm just wondering, who would that be? Us "decadent" Federals or your current Caldari allies?


Is "demonizing" really the word for what Nauplius does with Matari? His version of God's basically demonic, and he's been known to try to summon demons. He does seem to have a version of what "wicked" means, but that's mostly just anything that opposes his deity.

Mostly, it seems like it's not so much that he thinks the Matari are wicked as that his god wants them to suffer. To that end, I'm not sure he even plans to wipe them out. It's, and this seems like a hard thing to say about genocide, worse than that.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#103 - 2015-12-02 19:52:57 UTC
Ashlar Vellum wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:

Lack of proper etiquette invokes contempt.

By showing contempt in such maner you show your etiquette.
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
It's never been my opinion that Nieyli-haani has acted in such a manner as to bring her adopted people into disrepute. I'm proud to call her comrade and displeased, though not surprised, to see her attacked in public by those she ought to expect support from.

To make a long story short "If you don't want her, we'll keep her with pleasure."

Expecting support from people you don't know is naive at best, especially if you didn't do a thing to help those people in the first place, don't you think?

What an interesting choice of words Mr Tuulinen "if you don't want her, we'll keep her". I wouldn't have picked these exact words if I were talking about my trusted and respected brother in arms. Sounds a bit derogatory if you are speaking about a person and not a pet, but maybe that's just me.


Hmmm. And which of us do you think she feels has spoken about her in a derogatory fashion, Mr Vellum? What's naive, in my experience, is expecting certain officers in PIE to value concrete actions taken in defence of the Empire over passive lip-service to the Empire.

As for her having done nothing to help you - she's been a State Protectorate pilot for at least a year to my knowledge. Is this, suddenly, not helping the Empire?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#104 - 2015-12-02 20:47:09 UTC
And by being in SPROT was she fighting side by side with 24th in the Devoid at any point ever? Perhaps we just have different definition of help if you are asking this question.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#105 - 2015-12-02 21:13:21 UTC
You need to work on your bigger picture thinking, Mr Vellum. Significant Matari forces come to the Caldari/Gallente warzone - anyone fighting in an allied militia is fighting on your behalf.

It seems we do have different definitions. How sad.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#106 - 2015-12-02 21:18:19 UTC
Ashlar Vellum wrote:

What an interesting choice of words Mr Tuulinen "if you don't want her, we'll keep her". I wouldn't have picked these exact words if I were talking about my trusted and respected brother in arms. Sounds a bit derogatory if you are speaking about a person and not a pet, but maybe that's just me.

What was so wrong with that statement exactly? I don't get how thats offensive or whatever to anyone aside from a child.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#107 - 2015-12-02 21:57:57 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Nick Bete wrote:
Yeah, good luck with that Nappy. Last time you tried you got your asses handed to you by the Minmatar and the Jove.

By the way, just out of curiosity, what would happen after you destroyed all the Minmatar? Who would you morons turn against next? People like you always need a new bogeyman to demonize lest you turn on each other so, I'm just wondering, who would that be? Us "decadent" Federals or your current Caldari allies?


Is "demonizing" really the word for what Nauplius does with Matari? His version of God's basically demonic, and he's been known to try to summon demons. He does seem to have a version of what "wicked" means, but that's mostly just anything that opposes his deity.

Mostly, it seems like it's not so much that he thinks the Matari are wicked as that his god wants them to suffer. To that end, I'm not sure he even plans to wipe them out. It's, and this seems like a hard thing to say about genocide, worse than that.


On the one hand, the Minmatar are not the only people God has given over to destruction. He has also given Pleasure Hub occupants over to destruction, and he may according to his Will give other people over to destruction at the time of his choosing. Even if, however, God does not give the Gallente over to destruction, the commandment to Reclaim remains in effect, and so it would be licit for the Empire to wage a large scale war of enslavement and conquest against the Gallente even without a particular revelation from God giving that people over to destruction. I hope this war comes soon.

On the other hand, the Minmatar do occupy a special place in God's creation as the outlet for God's cruelty and punishment and wrath, as well as the divinely instituted source of labor and sacrifice for the Chosen, and so their potential extinction does pose something of a theological dilemma. I have two possible answers. One: I have mentioned before that I hold to a cyclical view of history which passes through a Blood Age, a Earth Age, a Dark Age, a Golden Age, and then back again. It may be that Minmatar, as such, are destroyed and then "recreated" at points along the cycle. Two: it may be the case that the destruction of the Minmatar that breaks the cycle and brings about a really final End of Days in which God sends the Ark for his Chosen and destroys the rest.
Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#108 - 2015-12-02 22:01:46 UTC
Nauplius wrote:

Tinfoilery nonsense


And now the crazy talk really begins to show itself!
Arrendis
TK Corp
#109 - 2015-12-02 22:11:00 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Two: it may be the case that the destruction of the Minmatar that breaks the cycle and brings about a really final End of Days in which God sends the Ark for his Chosen and destroys the rest.


Alternately, it says right here in this totally authentic tome of scripture that predates the closing of the EVE Gate that God specifically creates people whose named begin with 'Na' to be extra-salty and delusional, because he especially loves their tears.

Unfortunately, that book also contains scriptural instructions that require it never be shown to those people, so I'll just stop into Amarr some time soon and let Alizabeth Vea confirm its existence.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#110 - 2015-12-02 22:36:51 UTC
Maria Daphiti wrote:
Nauplius wrote:

Tinfoilery nonsense


And now the crazy talk really begins to show itself!




Could you please specify, madam, which parts you find crazy?

P. S. I see that you have abandoned that sinful outfit you were wearing. Good choice.
Kellie Dusette
Division 13
#111 - 2015-12-02 22:43:25 UTC
Kellie like for you coat very many much, Mista Nauplioos.

Look for stylish, many formal and this one 'dapper'.

Still need for to work on this smile more though...


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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#112 - 2015-12-02 22:54:11 UTC
Kellie Dusette wrote:
Kellie like for you coat very many much, Mista Nauplioos.

Look for stylish, many formal and this one 'dapper'.

Still need for to work on this smile more though...




Thank you, madam.
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#113 - 2015-12-02 23:10:39 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
You need to work on your bigger picture thinking, Mr Vellum. Significant Matari forces come to the Caldari/Gallente warzone - anyone fighting in an allied militia is fighting on your behalf.

It seems we do have different definitions. How sad.

Being in militia makes you a privateer nothing more. By your definition Nauplius is fighting on your behalf Mr Tuulinen, am I right.

It's clear our definitions do differ quite drastically, we can agree on that I suppose.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#114 - 2015-12-03 00:44:48 UTC
Ashlar Vellum wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
You need to work on your bigger picture thinking, Mr Vellum. Significant Matari forces come to the Caldari/Gallente warzone - anyone fighting in an allied militia is fighting on your behalf.

It seems we do have different definitions. How sad.

Being in militia makes you a privateer nothing more. By your definition Nauplius is fighting on your behalf Mr Tuulinen, am I right.

It's clear our definitions do differ quite drastically, we can agree on that I suppose.


Unsurprisingly you fail to grasp the difference between fighting on your behalf and being on your side. When Nauplius kills FDU pilots he is achieving the tactical goals of the State Protectorate, even if he is the worst kind of liquid filth.

Now tell me, Vellum, what has the pilot we're talking about done to place herself on the same footing as Nauplius? That was my earlier question and you've yet to tell me anything substantive.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#115 - 2015-12-03 09:19:41 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
The people of the Bleak Lands and Devoid groan under the sins of drunkenness and fornication

(...)

The blood of the Janitors shall cleanse your soul of sin and make you worthy of standing before a holy and righteous God.
It's disgusting, and yet laughable at the same time! Poor soul, you are truly mad and beyond any kind of salvation.

Well, perhaps except the one by holy laser fire!
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#116 - 2015-12-03 17:06:53 UTC
Tamiroth wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
The people of the Bleak Lands and Devoid groan under the sins of drunkenness and fornication

(...)

The blood of the Janitors shall cleanse your soul of sin and make you worthy of standing before a holy and righteous God.
It's disgusting, and yet laughable at the same time! Poor soul, you are truly mad and beyond any kind of salvation.

Well, perhaps except the one by holy laser fire!





I doubt that the entire Amarrian fleet has enough lasers among them to illicit enough retribution to matter.

Also, am I the only one who imagined a bunch of blood cells wearing coveralls, and using mops and buckets when he said that?

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#117 - 2015-12-03 21:19:23 UTC
Rumour has it, that if you want to bait Nauplius into action, you should consider abducting a Certain Khanid Journalist, and using her as bait.

But that's just a rumour.

Rumour.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#118 - 2015-12-03 22:38:56 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Rumour has it, that if you want to bait Nauplius into action, you should consider abducting a Certain Khanid Journalist, and using her as bait.

But that's just a rumour.

Rumour.

Serious.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#119 - 2015-12-03 23:09:17 UTC
Quiet, both of you.
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#120 - 2015-12-03 23:12:34 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Two: it may be the case that the destruction of the Minmatar that breaks the cycle and brings about a really final End of Days in which God sends the Ark for his Chosen and destroys the rest.


Alternately, it says right here in this totally authentic tome of scripture that predates the closing of the EVE Gate that God specifically creates people whose named begin with 'Na' to be extra-salty and delusional, because he especially loves their tears.

Unfortunately, that book also contains scriptural instructions that require it never be shown to those people, so I'll just stop into Amarr some time soon and let Alizabeth Vea confirm its existence.


Drinks will be on me.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.