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Blitz and Burner Guide v1.2.1

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Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#181 - 2016-01-21 14:36:47 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
MrsPotatoHead wrote:

1600mm Steel Plates II
Small Tractor Beam II




Neither of these things belong on a mission blitz boat.

The steel plate is not going to do much other than slow you down.

The tractor is actually an integral part of at least two of the blitzing missions.

You know, the numbers in EFT seem to be checking out, this means that something like this might be interesting to test out though this is what I would run. The question is just if the increase in DPS will offset the decrease in range:

[Machariel, Blitz Machariel - polar]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Tracking Enhancer II

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Shadow Serpentis 500MN Microwarpdrive

Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP L
Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP L
Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP L
Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP L
Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP L
Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP L
Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP L
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Hobgoblin II x5
Curator II x4

Dunno, might just be crazy enough to work, or it'll flop completely, only one way to be sure :)

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
MrsPotatoHead
Doomheim
#182 - 2016-01-21 14:52:56 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
Dunno, might just be crazy enough to work, or it'll flop completely, only one way to be sure :)



Muhahaha, supporting my madness!


Part of the inspiration comes from a Vindicator which I know is well used in Gurstias space which relies on Polarized weapons and an active shield tank, it basically spits out somewhere in the range of 2500 DPS and allows you to make mince meat of the NPC ships.

Obviously the tactic is somewhat different as you're within spitting distance of the NPC ships.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#183 - 2016-01-26 14:06:59 UTC
A little secret: I actually don't like the Mach all that much. As ship looks go it's pretty far down my list of favorite ships. So since I recently retrained Mini BS5 (Long story) I'm finally back in my 2nd favorite sub cap, the Vargur. I'm still in the process of testing but for now the below fit will beat your normal non-polarised mach in Angel Pirate invasion by at least 30 seconds, travel time included (has the same align time, only 2au/s slower warp). Also it takes almost exactly 2min to murder all the BS so no waiting for bastion either.

[Vargur, New Setup 1]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Gyrostabilizer II
Inertial Stabilizers II

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Large Micro Jump Drive
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II

Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon, Hail L
Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon, Hail L
Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon, Hail L
Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon, Hail L
Bastion Module I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Garde II x2

Fun fact, if you MJD asap to the wrecked carrier object, about 95km away from warp in, the spawn that usually aggros (Including 2 scramming frigs) never aggros. Might mean a MJD fitted Machariel would be superior to the MWD fitted one I'm using currently.

It's a purpose built design that probably wont see any use outside of a few missions and I have a feeling the Polarized Machariel I'm working on will do even better so who knows. I wonder how fast it's possible to do these missions.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#184 - 2016-02-10 11:54:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
How do we get this thread stickied?
.....

Anize, when you get a chance and if you haven't done so already, you should add that Onyx fit for the Blood Base Burner.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
David Therman
#185 - 2016-02-13 20:50:48 UTC
Apart from the Guristas Base, I think I've got every other burner nailed down... but one that still makes me quite nervous is the Jaguar. After I got slapped with a wrecking shot while orbiting at 25 (I thought it was because the orbit hadn't stabilised), I moved that to 28. I tend to do the team burners semi-afk, so I was rudely interrupted earlier this evening by the Jag landing a wrecker at 28km, while the Garm was orbiting steadily... that Jag is scary. Sad
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#186 - 2016-02-14 10:06:45 UTC
David Therman wrote:
Apart from the Guristas Base, I think I've got every other burner nailed down... but one that still makes me quite nervous is the Jaguar. After I got slapped with a wrecking shot while orbiting at 25 (I thought it was because the orbit hadn't stabilised), I moved that to 28. I tend to do the team burners semi-afk, so I was rudely interrupted earlier this evening by the Jag landing a wrecker at 28km, while the Garm was orbiting steadily... that Jag is scary. Sad


use javelins and orbit @30 and change a mgc for a sebo.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#187 - 2016-02-15 04:15:33 UTC
Ploing wrote:
David Therman wrote:
Apart from the Guristas Base, I think I've got every other burner nailed down... but one that still makes me quite nervous is the Jaguar. After I got slapped with a wrecking shot while orbiting at 25 (I thought it was because the orbit hadn't stabilised), I moved that to 28. I tend to do the team burners semi-afk, so I was rudely interrupted earlier this evening by the Jag landing a wrecker at 28km, while the Garm was orbiting steadily... that Jag is scary. Sad


use javelins and orbit @30 and change a mgc for a sebo.


Or just use a non-polarized LML/ECM fit for the jag, more range and more survivability, takes longer to get the kill though.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#188 - 2016-02-25 15:04:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
You will need near-perfect skills to fit this, but this is a cheap low-sec alternative for the Team Burner Garmur fit. With mid-grade Nomads and a EM-705 it will align out in 1.47s - enough to defeat the vast majority of gate camps you may encounter.

[Garmur, Garmur LS]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Inertial Stabilizers II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script

Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#189 - 2016-02-28 17:43:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Anize Oramara
Guide updated to v1.1

Also probably going to let my subs for all my accounts expire and go into cold storage. The whole CCP giving me the finger over the mission changes has left a bad taste in my mouth (it was the last straw honestly so it was coming) and a short hiatus did not improve my feeling towards it, CCP or the game unfortunately. The changes don't change anything but CCP's 'customer service' leaves a lot to be desired.

I expect there to come changes and I may or may not on occasion check back in and update the guide. Hopefully at least some of the info will stay relevant for a while still.

Also no you may not have my stuff or my SP.

Fly safe and all that.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#190 - 2016-02-28 21:26:50 UTC
can understand why you do this.Sad

o7
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#191 - 2016-02-28 21:46:15 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
Guide updated to v1.1

Also probably going to let my subs for all my accounts expire and go into cold storage. The whole CCP giving me the finger over the mission changes has left a bad taste in my mouth (it was the last straw honestly so it was coming) and a short hiatus did not improve my feeling towards it, CCP or the game unfortunately. The changes don't change anything but CCP's 'customer service' leaves a lot to be desired.

I expect there to come changes and I may or may not on occasion check back in and update the guide. Hopefully at least some of the info will stay relevant for a while still.

Also no you may not have my stuff or my SP.

Fly safe and all that.



Sorry to hear you're going dark for a while. You're a great resource to the community, and I'm sure many people besides me appreciate your work.

Fly safe in real life. Hope to see you back here in the future.

o7

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Imalia Bloodlines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#192 - 2016-02-28 23:25:37 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
Guide updated to v1.1

Also probably going to let my subs for all my accounts expire and go into cold storage. The whole CCP giving me the finger over the mission changes has left a bad taste in my mouth (it was the last straw honestly so it was coming) and a short hiatus did not improve my feeling towards it, CCP or the game unfortunately. The changes don't change anything but CCP's 'customer service' leaves a lot to be desired.

I expect there to come changes and I may or may not on occasion check back in and update the guide. Hopefully at least some of the info will stay relevant for a while still.

Also no you may not have my stuff or my SP.

Fly safe and all that.

Not sure what changes to missions you are referring to?

Also, thanks to your guide, people destroyed SoE lp, its now down to 1600 isk wohoo. Might want to consider pulling that guide if you are quitting for real.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#193 - 2016-02-29 01:13:05 UTC
Imalia Bloodlines wrote:
Anize Oramara wrote:
Guide updated to v1.1

Also probably going to let my subs for all my accounts expire and go into cold storage. The whole CCP giving me the finger over the mission changes has left a bad taste in my mouth (it was the last straw honestly so it was coming) and a short hiatus did not improve my feeling towards it, CCP or the game unfortunately. The changes don't change anything but CCP's 'customer service' leaves a lot to be desired.

I expect there to come changes and I may or may not on occasion check back in and update the guide. Hopefully at least some of the info will stay relevant for a while still.

Also no you may not have my stuff or my SP.

Fly safe and all that.

Not sure what changes to missions you are referring to?

Also, thanks to your guide, people destroyed SoE lp, its now down to 1600 isk wohoo. Might want to consider pulling that guide if you are quitting for real.

Various undocumented changes to mission triggers. Again, they don't actual change anything, just the way CCP chose to handle it. As to your other point, it's been discussed ad nauseam.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#194 - 2016-02-29 08:00:19 UTC
o7. Hope we'll see you again in the future...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
MrsPotatoHead
Doomheim
#195 - 2016-02-29 14:23:52 UTC
Thanks for the guide, sad to see you leave.

o7
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#196 - 2016-02-29 16:00:29 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
You will need near-perfect skills to fit this, but this is a cheap low-sec alternative for the Team Burner Garmur fit. With mid-grade Nomads and a EM-705 it will align out in 1.47s - enough to defeat the vast majority of gate camps you may encounter.

You probably know that it doesn't matter whether your align time is 1.9 or 1.1s due to server ticks. Just you may be able to safe a couple of billion in implants ... Blink

I'm my own NPC alt.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#197 - 2016-02-29 17:54:09 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:

Various undocumented changes to mission triggers. Again, they don't actual change anything, just the way CCP chose to handle it. As to your other point, it's been discussed ad nauseam.

Why so negative? My guess is, that whenever there is a perceived change, the previous mode of the mission was buggy and got fixed as a side effect from other changes. Honestly we don't have a "right" to get blitzable missions for maximum payout ... sad to see, that there is no other area you can find fun in EvE ...

I'm my own NPC alt.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#198 - 2016-03-01 06:58:44 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Anize Oramara wrote:

Various undocumented changes to mission triggers. Again, they don't actual change anything, just the way CCP chose to handle it. As to your other point, it's been discussed ad nauseam.

Why so negative? My guess is, that whenever there is a perceived change, the previous mode of the mission was buggy and got fixed as a side effect from other changes. Honestly we don't have a "right" to get blitzable missions for maximum payout ... sad to see, that there is no other area you can find fun in EvE ...

Eh, it's not the end of the world. I spent 4 months going through official and unofficial channels without getting even a single yes or no from CCP. If they don't care then it's hard to justify investment from my side.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#199 - 2016-03-01 14:33:49 UTC
If missions was all you were doing in this game, then it might be a good thing you are taking a hiatus. Lot more to EVE than just missions.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#200 - 2016-03-01 16:42:48 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
Anize Oramara wrote:

Various undocumented changes to mission triggers. Again, they don't actual change anything, just the way CCP chose to handle it. As to your other point, it's been discussed ad nauseam.

Why so negative? My guess is, that whenever there is a perceived change, the previous mode of the mission was buggy and got fixed as a side effect from other changes. Honestly we don't have a "right" to get blitzable missions for maximum payout ... sad to see, that there is no other area you can find fun in EvE ...

Eh, it's not the end of the world. I spent 4 months going through official and unofficial channels without getting even a single yes or no from CCP. If they don't care then it's hard to justify investment from my side.

But we care, your findings and guide are very helpful. Smile

I'm my own NPC alt.