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Max Singularity is not worthy champion
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
#1 - 2015-11-07 16:37:10 UTC
Max Singularity is not worthy champion. He is openly rebellious towards the Amarr Empire and has symphaties to Sani Sabik. Iphar spies has also revealed his scheme to usurp my fiefdom and thus noble title if he wins. He would ask them as a boon from the Emperor.

I ask that royal heir reconsiders his decision to take this scum as his representative, for his entire participation will strike cracks to the Imperial unity. I must prepare to defend my holdings and rights in case he wins.

Fear the God and honor the Empress!

-House Valius battle shout.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#2 - 2015-11-07 16:48:41 UTC
If he wins a trial that's held to determine the Will of God, wouldn't that mean God wanted him to win? If he's unworthy, won't Divine Providence show that?
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
#3 - 2015-11-07 16:55:53 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
If he wins a trial that's held to determine the Will of God, wouldn't that mean God wanted him to win? If he's unworthy, won't Divine Providence show that?


Certainly matter to ponder, but my concerns remain. He is planning to steal my nobility.

Fear the God and honor the Empress!

-House Valius battle shout.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#4 - 2015-11-07 16:55:55 UTC
If he usurps your feifdom does that mean you will now only have 34 titles?
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
#5 - 2015-11-07 17:01:04 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
If he usurps your feifdom does that mean you will now only have 34 titles?


It would mean that my house would lose all its holdings and end to our feudal reign. Most likely without my support my entire house would fall into poverty.

Fear the God and honor the Empress!

-House Valius battle shout.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#6 - 2015-11-07 17:05:00 UTC
well, that's not good.... You I could care less, but I don't want to see people who don't deserve it suffer. Even if its family of people I'm not a fan of.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2015-11-07 18:08:59 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
If he wins a trial that's held to determine the Will of God, wouldn't that mean God wanted him to win? If he's unworthy, won't Divine Providence show that?


Presumably then, you would consider it to be God's verdict on him if he loses?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Arrendis
TK Corp
#8 - 2015-11-07 18:18:40 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
If he wins a trial that's held to determine the Will of God, wouldn't that mean God wanted him to win? If he's unworthy, won't Divine Providence show that?


Presumably then, you would consider it to be God's verdict on him if he loses?


If I believed in God, then I would definitely consider a loss to be God's verdict on Max's choice of Houses to support, yes.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-11-07 19:14:35 UTC
Many of the champions are not worthy.

But they will decide if their Heir is whether we like it or not. This 11th hour is far to late to keep crowing about what is already clear.

Sourem Itharen wrote:

Be it known that this communication represents the settled will of the Imperial Succession Committee after due consideration of all facts and particulars placed before it by candidate champions, representatives of the Royal Heirs, the Ministry of Internal Order and the Order of St. Tetrimon.

...

All complaints laid thus far have been found without merit on examination.

...

One further matter, the Order of St. Tetrimon has declared that interference with the remains of righteous participants in the Trials of the Champions, whether they be of champions, retainers or faithful crews, will be grounds for sanction and may imperil the standing of Champions in the Trials. In this we are in perfect accord with the Order of St. Tetrimon.

Cardinal Sourem Itharen
Capsuleer Emissary to the Court Chamberlain



Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
edeity
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
Crimson Inquisicion
#10 - 2015-11-07 20:00:41 UTC
I think we have a case here of inherited wealth calling earned wealth uncultured. This is why the trials are essential to the selection. Strength is truth of power, truth of the divine.
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
#11 - 2015-11-07 20:12:25 UTC
edeity wrote:
I think we have a case here of inherited wealth calling earned wealth uncultured. This is why the trials are essential to the selection. Strength is truth of power, truth of the divine.


I have nothing to do with the royal houses. My house represents a minor nobility and even if worst would came to pass, we would not be into the line of t housands of successors.

Fear the God and honor the Empress!

-House Valius battle shout.
Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-11-08 01:17:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Jovakko
So in regards to not being allowed into the line of Succession, does that equate to "Shame" on your line? Or could you just ascend another way?

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
#13 - 2015-11-08 01:23:12 UTC
Omega Jovakko wrote:
So in regards to not being allowed into the line of Succession, does that equate to "Shame" on your line? Or could you just ascend another way?


I have no idea what you are talking about. I question Max Singularity faith and loyalty to this Empire.

Fear the God and honor the Empress!

-House Valius battle shout.
Omega Jovakko
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-11-08 01:28:11 UTC
Vaari wrote:
Omega Jovakko wrote:
So in regards to not being allowed into the line of Succession, does that equate to "Shame" on your line? Or could you just ascend another way?


I have no idea what you are talking about. I question Max Singularity faith and loyalty to this Empire.



I misread, I sincerely apologize.

"Let them try and come. They've got 3 for every 1 of ours, it'll be a great time"
Sahriah BloodStone
No.Mercy
Triumvirate.
#15 - 2015-11-08 02:29:25 UTC
I find it amusing that an awful lot of Amarrians seem to lack faith in God's Will when things don't go their way. Have you tried praying?

Sahriah Bloodstone

No.Mercy // Triumvirate

"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-11-08 08:36:53 UTC
Sahriah BloodStone wrote:
I find it amusing that an awful lot of Amarrians seem to lack faith in God's Will when things don't go their way. Have you tried praying?

Have you?
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#17 - 2015-11-08 09:32:01 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
If he wins a trial that's held to determine the Will of God, wouldn't that mean God wanted him to win? If he's unworthy, won't Divine Providence show that?


Presumably then, you would consider it to be God's verdict on him if he loses?


If I believed in God, then I would definitely consider a loss to be God's verdict on Max's choice of Houses to support, yes.


In other words, you expect us to abide by the results of this contest, but you'll be ignoring them as soon as Singularity loses.

Is it true that there's a picture of you in the dictionary, right where it says hypocrisy?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2015-11-08 12:35:35 UTC
It is you who believes in this old ritual, after all. We don't need the word of a make-believe god to consider Maximilian the true leader of Amarr.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph
Arrendis
TK Corp
#19 - 2015-11-08 13:48:59 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
In other words, you expect us to abide by the results of this contest, but you'll be ignoring them as soon as Singularity loses.

Is it true that there's a picture of you in the dictionary, right where it says hypocrisy?


In other words, I'm not Amarr, and no matter who wins, it won't be my Emperor. It's not my religion, and it's not my culture. So I expect you to adhere to the tenets of your faith, yes. As for what I will or won't ignore, let's look at this for a moment. Considering the 'Max is the True Emperor' claim, if I do believe Max should be Emperor, then I would have to think that he's in the wrong position in this Trial to begin with, now wouldn't I?
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2015-11-08 13:55:29 UTC
Lord Vaari,


Your concerns are the same that House Khanid has had to deal with based on one of our pilots. I will state the same response.

All of the Heirs have selected outlanders, heretics and criminals.

The Privy and Theology Councils are taking every step to make sure the Trials remain ideologically pure. While I recognize your concerns, we must have faith in the Councils.

Ultimately, the Emperor will be chosen by the Will of God. We must abide His decision.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."
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