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L4 Typhoon - RHML or Cruise?
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Valacus
Streets of Fire
#41 - 2015-11-20 16:33:47 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
Loradan Illstari wrote:
Anize Oramara wrote:
Valacus wrote:
RHML reload, 10 billion years. Cruise reload, not 10 billion years. Not much of a contest IMO. Rapid launchers aren't very good for PvE.

Actually, did a fun little test quickly in EFT. EFT can show damage with reloads taken into account.

Cruise Barghest using Faction cruise missiles and fitted with 3 faction BCU and 1 BCU II (Pretty standard layout) has a dps WITH reloads of 808dps (843dps with no reloads)

RHML Barghest using Fury missiles (Identical explosion velocity, much better explosion radius than faction cruise) also fitted with 3 faction BCU and 1 BCU II has a dps WITH reloads of 780 (1192 dps with reloads)

So for a cost of 28dps I get better application (explosion radius 180 vs 247) and far fewer wasted damage from overkill because smaller damage per volley. Come December that 28dps cost should be even less though no idea by how much.

The Barghest really is the champion of RHM and Torps (more so than the Golem imho)


Fewer wasted volleys, but you're using up way more ammunition since RHML makes up the DPS in rate of fire vs. volley damage for cruise. I still say cruise missiles are a huge win over RHML.

Check the prices for T2 ammo vs faction ammo. T2 ammo pretty cheap. A quick look at eve central T2 scourge fury is less than 400isk each, faction scourge cruise is almsot 4 times that however cruise volley is only slightly more than double that of the heavy missiles.

That means cruise missile costs are actually MORE (almsot double) than that of heavy missiles. You actually save money using HRML over using cruise.


Scourge fury cruise missiles costs 440 isk in Jita. Scourge fury heavies cost 398. So no, not almost double. Not by a long shot. Again, cruise wins.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#42 - 2015-11-20 17:45:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Anize Oramara
Valacus wrote:

Scourge fury cruise missiles costs 440 isk in Jita. Scourge fury heavies cost 398. So no, not almost double. Not by a long shot. Again, cruise wins.

Do try and keep up. Faction cruise and fury heavies have the same explosion velocities with fury heavies having better explosion radius. This is why I compared those two specifically. Otherwise you have a problem with application so your Fury cruise does far less damage than advertised or you need additional application on a hull that already has no bonuses to application. Here I'll even quote you the bit I originally wrote:

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Actually, did a fun little test quickly in EFT. EFT can show damage with reloads taken into account.

Cruise Barghest using Faction cruise missiles and fitted with 3 faction BCU and 1 BCU II (Pretty standard layout) has a dps WITH reloads of 808dps (843dps with no reloads)

RHML Barghest using Fury missiles (Identical explosion velocity, much better explosion radius than faction cruise) also fitted with 3 faction BCU and 1 BCU II has a dps WITH reloads of 780 (1192 dps with reloads)

So for a cost of 28dps I get better application (explosion radius 180 vs 247) and far fewer wasted damage from overkill because smaller damage per volley. Come December that 28dps cost should be even less though no idea by how much.

The Barghest really is the champion of RHM and Torps (more so than the Golem imho)


This isn't rocket science.

Ok, so it kinda is Pirate

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