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Manfred Sideous removal from CSM10

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Dog0fWaRR
Origin.
#41 - 2015-11-05 15:04:24 UTC
Okay.
Querns
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#42 - 2015-11-05 15:17:28 UTC
Mealtime wrote:
Tetsel wrote:
CCPlease stop that CSM joke. Nobody remember what happen in 2007 anyway, you don't need that PR Damage Control anymore.
Thx


The only purpose of that CSM is to maintain power to big groups in New Eden. It's not what CSM was created for.
It's, actually, a joke.

I can confirm that the CSM, being a group that is appointed due to backroom deals, nepotism, and bribery, and not at all the result of a democratic election using a vote aggregation mechanic designed to minimize vote wasting by uninformed voters has its purpose solely rooted in maintaining power to big groups.

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John Selth
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#43 - 2015-11-05 15:32:58 UTC
Uhuh...
Skarr Tos
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2015-11-05 15:38:45 UTC
And umm..
SilentAsTheGrave
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2015-11-05 15:45:27 UTC
Manfred Sideous wrote:
Seems Legit Roll

Why did they kick you off the CSM?
Daugan
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#46 - 2015-11-05 15:53:38 UTC
Out of curiosity, what disciplinary steps will be taken against the devs that got loco drunk at Amsterdam and leaked the changes well in advance?
Tornii
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2015-11-05 16:01:09 UTC
I'm just curious - if the CSM is a democratically elected body responsible to its voters, how can reasons for such a change "of course remain confidential"?
Carmen Electra
Row Row Fight the Power
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#48 - 2015-11-05 16:08:32 UTC
Tornii wrote:
I'm just curious - if the CSM is a democratically elected body responsible to its voters, how can reasons for such a change "of course remain confidential"?

Because, at the end of the day, EVE Online is CCP's intellectual property. The CSM is an initiative that they put in place for their own reasons, and while I'm sure they try to respect the decisions players make, things like NDAs trump the feel-good democracy they've instituted.
jaguar uhlan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2015-11-05 16:15:45 UTC
well at least he didn't go to riot amirite guys
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#50 - 2015-11-05 16:18:22 UTC
Tornii wrote:
I'm just curious - if the CSM is a democratically elected body responsible to its voters, how can reasons for such a change "of course remain confidential"?


Because disciplinary action usually remains confidential unless initiated within the democratic process as a matter of protecting the privacy of the person being disciplined. Get your head out of the tabloid media, please.
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#51 - 2015-11-05 16:19:26 UTC
Querns wrote:
How could this be construed as "insidious?"


How could removing Sideous be Insidious?

Someone has been successfully avoiding Kcolor's puns lately, I see.
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#52 - 2015-11-05 16:20:15 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Don't kick CSM members.
You are effectively reducing places where players can get reliable information about upcoming changes.
Split for the battle/logi carriers was well known before eve Amsterdam , like the small buff to dreads.


Pssst. There might be a connection there.
Querns
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#53 - 2015-11-05 16:22:52 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Querns wrote:
How could this be construed as "insidious?"


How could removing Sideous be Insidious?

Someone has been successfully avoiding Kcolor's puns lately, I see.

That's not even a pun. Or funny. :V

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Globby
Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished
Gimme Da Loot
#54 - 2015-11-05 16:49:16 UTC
Dear {Recipient}

Please accept my deepest apologies for my mistake in regard to {state mistake}.

It was not my intention to create such an awkward and embarrassing situation for {you, institution, the team, company, etc…}.

If there was any good that came out of this unfortunate experience, it is that I have grown and learned alternative approaches to these situations.

Please feel free to let me of your thoughts and concerns over this matter. You can reach me at {email, phone number}.

Sincerely,
{Sender}
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#55 - 2015-11-05 16:55:29 UTC
Querns wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Querns wrote:
How could this be construed as "insidious?"


How could removing Sideous be Insidious?

Someone has been successfully avoiding Kcolor's puns lately, I see.

That's not even a pun. Or funny. :V


Are you saying Kcolor's are?
Querns
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#56 - 2015-11-05 17:07:00 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Querns wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Querns wrote:
How could this be construed as "insidious?"


How could removing Sideous be Insidious?

Someone has been successfully avoiding Kcolor's puns lately, I see.

That's not even a pun. Or funny. :V


Are you saying Kcolor's are?

I'm saying they're at least puns.

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Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#57 - 2015-11-05 17:11:07 UTC
Well this is disappointing to hear.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword

Globby
Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished
Gimme Da Loot
#58 - 2015-11-05 17:11:55 UTC
Big smileSmileSadShockedWhat?CoolLolXPOopsCryEvilRollTwistedBlinkAttentionQuestionIdeaArrowStraightPirateUghBear

my reaction when this happens
Querns
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#59 - 2015-11-05 17:15:17 UTC
Globby wrote:
Big smileSmileSadShockedWhat?CoolLolXPOopsCryEvilRollTwistedBlinkAttentionQuestionIdeaArrowStraightPirateUghBear

my reaction when this happens

I rolled my face on my keyboard, too.

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Xenuria
#60 - 2015-11-05 17:20:50 UTC
REFORM THE CSM!
Vote Xenuria~

Seriously though, I said this stuff would happen. You didn't listen.
Literal writing on the wall, that half the community ignored.
A former member of the CSM even went so far as to compare my reform platform to the gestapo.

If the CSM is to survive it needs to change and grow like any other system within this living story we call EvE Online.