Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Simple enough - the jump fatigue reductions were not enough. Bottom line is this feature is still extremely irritating. I just tried to move a black ops, and forgot to check my timer before making a jump. I now have a five day timer. You make a short number of jumps in quick succession, and it means you are unable to play for the rest of the week.

It DOES serve it's purpose of preventing power projection by inhibiting capital travel. The problem is, there's no reason for this to constantly apply to subcaps. I know that CCP wants to make pockets of activity and force us to rely on local production, while also inhibiting power projection.

I'd propose the reduction be adjusted further to a maximum timer of 48 hours for subcapitals, and 3 days for capitals. One week is too long, and it's punishing rather than serving the purpose of inhibiting rapid deployments.

lol shots fired :P

I agree on the reduction though. Black ops should have a reduction closer to that of JFs.

I understand the point that CCP is trying to achieve with Jump Fatigue - but we've come to the point where it punishes people for playing the game, and that's not good.

So you want to change a game mechanic because you forgot to check your timer?

hmm...

Nah, it's not too long. Just learn to manage your fatigue and you won't have problems. How about you learn how to keep your fatigue at 0 all the time? It is not that difficult to achieve and I see absolutely no reason why people should get more than 20 hrs of fatigue at all. Just use wormholes (make use of the Ihub upgrade and if it does not work as expected, make CCP make it work as expected) to get closer to your targets.
It also does not mean you cannot play for the rest of the week, it means that you cannot play as you like for the the duration of 12 hours.
That BLOPS need "help" is subjective, I still see blops fleets perform quite nicely. But a further reduction of fatigue is only going to make it again easier and easier to move big fleets long distance faster.

Because you shouldn't get the financial benefit of living in deep null as well as the target-hunting benefit of not. Pick where you live. That's the entire point. If you want more/easier targets, move closer to where they live, or set someone to red who lives next door.

Yes, fleets can perform well when you get them together, this isn't about on grid performance or their occasional use. It is about the playstyle being hamstrung by the collateral damage of the capital jump mechanics. Certain areas are effectively immune to blops due to the combined WH changes and blops fatigue mechanics, which is really terrible game design. Blops are one of the few ways to fight against grossly asymmetrical numbers, and thus should be a key part of the new sov-system as a way to put risk in areas where there is no other realistic way to maintain risk to rattters. Ratting is a key part of Sov Defense now, yet there is effectively no way to challenge it in very deep null except for extremely rare WHs, which you will get at most a few drops out of, before it closes, when what you need is a way to enforce a static amount of risk to these areas.

I don't think you understand blops.

Guess I'll go play world of war ships for a week with everyone else :)

Then blops could potentially receive more bonus to fatigue reduction. But a blanket reduction to all jump fatigue is not an appropriate way to address the issue.

Besides, I do not exactly know where Severance is dropping blops a lot, but if it is towards the south: How about having Blops stashes stationed in Stain? You can just ceptor around to the different stashes and reduce your need for jumps significantly. That is how I would organize myself if I did that kind of stuff as my main preoccupation. vOv

So just give it to things that either take a blops bridge or are a blops themselves.

The other option that would solve 100% of this, in addition to helping with other problems, is to put more NPC stations in deep null as to enable actual harassment gameplay. Look at the dynamic of Fountain vs deep Deklein. Look at Pure Blind vs deep Branch or any other edge region.

It absolutely is. The mechanic is just plain bad, it needs to be mitigated and marginalized, if not outright removed for a later redesign.