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Styphon the Black
Forced Euthanasia
#1 - 2015-11-02 21:23:24 UTC
Can we please get a feature added that allows the sharing of hangers between alts accounts?

I can't tell you the amount of times I have had a corp member ask me for a module or some other item and I say yes I have it but I need to log on my other toon and get it for you. I am sure I have wasted hundreds of hours just doing the item shuffle between toons. It would be nice if you could release access to your hanger to specific characters in game and that way they could take from and share items with each others hangers similar to corp hangers today, but without all the corp roles non-sense.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2015-11-02 21:29:31 UTC
I'll take "what is a Corp hangar?" for $500

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#3 - 2015-11-02 21:32:43 UTC
And I raise to a fleet hangar.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Wolf Lafisques
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-11-02 21:39:10 UTC
This feature already exists... Straight
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#5 - 2015-11-02 22:19:02 UTC
I've lived 100% out of POS's for about six months now with three accounts and literally never had this problem....
Nyalnara
Marauder Initiative
#6 - 2015-11-02 23:02:16 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I'll take "what is a Corp hangar?" for $500


And what if your alts are in different corps? Or if you're not the only one in your corp, and you can't get your own corp hangar as all are already used for something?

French half-noob.

Non, je ne suis pas gentil.
Wolf Lafisques
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-11-02 23:07:07 UTC
Nyalnara wrote:
And what if your alts are in different corps? Or if you're not the only one in your corp, and you can't get your own corp hangar as all are already used for something?


Manage your assets better, keep things in stock that you need, or stop being lazy and just switch characters, make a contract real quick, and switch back.
Nyalnara
Marauder Initiative
#8 - 2015-11-03 00:05:09 UTC
Wolf Lafisques wrote:
Nyalnara wrote:
And what if your alts are in different corps? Or if you're not the only one in your corp, and you can't get your own corp hangar as all are already used for something?


Manage your assets better, keep things in stock that you need, or stop being lazy and just switch characters, make a contract real quick, and switch back.

Well, that's already what i do, but i'd like for a bit more practicality... (Which is coming with structure, they're looking at a way to forcedrop things into someone else hangar without requiring approbation. Dunno how it's going to be done, but seems promising.)

French half-noob.

Non, je ne suis pas gentil.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#9 - 2015-11-03 00:27:55 UTC
Jettison??

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Khan Wrenth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2015-11-03 05:56:06 UTC
You know, sharing hangers is the leading cause of the spread of space AIDS.

Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
Styphon the Black
Forced Euthanasia
#11 - 2015-11-03 20:19:28 UTC
Nyalnara wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I'll take "what is a Corp hangar?" for $500


And what if your alts are in different corps? Or if you're not the only one in your corp, and you can't get your own corp hangar as all are already used for something?


You got that correct! Not to mention the problem with non director toons or just the pain in grant accesses and roles. It seems like it would be a really easy feature to add.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#12 - 2015-11-03 20:33:52 UTC
Why should your alts get special rights that other players don't have.
EVE is about interacting with people, Alts should never receive special rights just because the same player is behind them. One game mechanic for everyone.
Wolf Lafisques
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-11-04 01:37:20 UTC
I want to know why we should be able to get aid from offline characters. I don't think that items should be privately transferable between two characters without request and acceptance. Corp hangars are different. They're private, but only within the player's corp. Anyone who has permissions can get into the corp hangar. It's more of a community pot than a conduit between two characters that allows one player to access items on an offline or inactive account.
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#14 - 2015-11-04 07:37:56 UTC
I used to be a fan of this - but not in many of the ways people won't it, with the way EVE works.

Now - I could see an option added that allowed players to "link accounts" this would link all assets, mail, contact list, API etc.

Corporation spies would not want to use this - b/c corporation security officers could see all the characters linked to that players hanger.
Having great power of access also needs to be overly open for security purposes.
As a player with a few accounts and active played toons, in the same Corp, this would be a great benefit to me, as well to others. If I joined a Corp with one and left my accounts linked or linked them afterward it would notify the CEO/director/Recruiter person.

If you want something this powerful, you have to be willing to make sacrifices of equal or greater value.

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Wolf Lafisques
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-11-04 17:53:22 UTC
Amarisen Gream wrote:
I used to be a fan of this - but not in many of the ways people won't it, with the way EVE works.

Now - I could see an option added that allowed players to "link accounts" this would link all assets, mail, contact list, API etc.

Corporation spies would not want to use this - b/c corporation security officers could see all the characters linked to that players hanger.
Having great power of access also needs to be overly open for security purposes.
As a player with a few accounts and active played toons, in the same Corp, this would be a great benefit to me, as well to others. If I joined a Corp with one and left my accounts linked or linked them afterward it would notify the CEO/director/Recruiter person.

If you want something this powerful, you have to be willing to make sacrifices of equal or greater value.


This actually doesn't sound like a bad compromise. The only issue is that it provides an option, which means that players can still have spy accounts and asset sharing could still be exploited.
Styphon the Black
Forced Euthanasia
#16 - 2015-11-04 19:45:18 UTC
Wolf Lafisques wrote:
Amarisen Gream wrote:
I used to be a fan of this - but not in many of the ways people won't it, with the way EVE works.

Now - I could see an option added that allowed players to "link accounts" this would link all assets, mail, contact list, API etc.

Corporation spies would not want to use this - b/c corporation security officers could see all the characters linked to that players hanger.
Having great power of access also needs to be overly open for security purposes.
As a player with a few accounts and active played toons, in the same Corp, this would be a great benefit to me, as well to others. If I joined a Corp with one and left my accounts linked or linked them afterward it would notify the CEO/director/Recruiter person.

If you want something this powerful, you have to be willing to make sacrifices of equal or greater value.


This actually doesn't sound like a bad compromise. The only issue is that it provides an option, which means that players can still have spy accounts and asset sharing could still be exploited.


I really don't understand the not wanting this ability. Everything against it people said they don't like the capability already exists in the game as it is today in EVE. You can trade all your items and isk between all your accounts and all your toons. However, the interface is just a real pain in the but and a waste of time. Either having toons in station together either trading or using the private contract system to pass items and using "Give ISK" to trade money.

All that exists. All I want to do it make it easier for you to be able to do that without all the trading and market interfaces. Not adding any additional API intel feature or ability to be able to hand off to Corp/Alliance. Basically you would submit all your information for the accounts linking them so CCP knows what you are the owner of all the toons and accounts. Then all the toons hangers would be viewable and accessible by any other toon linked in this way.

Not asking for anything "powerful" just an easier method to do what I can already do. Just without having to us "Give ISK", Contracts and Trading interfaces.
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#17 - 2015-11-04 22:33:05 UTC
Styphon the Black wrote:
Wolf Lafisques wrote:
Amarisen Gream wrote:
I used to be a fan of this - but not in many of the ways people won't it, with the way EVE works.

Now - I could see an option added that allowed players to "link accounts" this would link all assets, mail, contact list, API etc.

Corporation spies would not want to use this - b/c corporation security officers could see all the characters linked to that players hanger.
Having great power of access also needs to be overly open for security purposes.
As a player with a few accounts and active played toons, in the same Corp, this would be a great benefit to me, as well to others. If I joined a Corp with one and left my accounts linked or linked them afterward it would notify the CEO/director/Recruiter person.

If you want something this powerful, you have to be willing to make sacrifices of equal or greater value.


This actually doesn't sound like a bad compromise. The only issue is that it provides an option, which means that players can still have spy accounts and asset sharing could still be exploited.


I really don't understand the not wanting this ability. Everything against it people said they don't like the capability already exists in the game as it is today in EVE. You can trade all your items and isk between all your accounts and all your toons. However, the interface is just a real pain in the but and a waste of time. Either having toons in station together either trading or using the private contract system to pass items and using "Give ISK" to trade money.

All that exists. All I want to do it make it easier for you to be able to do that without all the trading and market interfaces. Not adding any additional API intel feature or ability to be able to hand off to Corp/Alliance. Basically you would submit all your information for the accounts linking them so CCP knows what you are the owner of all the toons and accounts. Then all the toons hangers would be viewable and accessible by any other toon linked in this way.

Not asking for anything "powerful" just an easier method to do what I can already do. Just without having to us "Give ISK", Contracts and Trading interfaces.


@ Wolf - people will have spy accounts, but this compromise allows easier security for Corporations and Alliances to find those spies. Spies will have to work harder - or make longer trails.

@ Styphon - it isn't that people have an issue with this sharing ability. People have an issue with the level of abuse that could happen. You seem to be lacking experience in the way EVE players are. They will find every loop hole, exploit, and backdoor!
For players to have the option to link accounts, there has to be a checks and balance system. You as a player have multiple accounts you want link - guess what - you have to allow anyone who has your API to know that you have linked hangers.
Checks and balances.

There are thousands of players who would use them function fairly - but there are also thousands who would use this to **** everyone else over. Including people you know and trust.

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Raquel Saissore
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#18 - 2015-11-04 22:44:03 UTC
Styphon the Black wrote:
Nyalnara wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I'll take "what is a Corp hangar?" for $500


And what if your alts are in different corps? Or if you're not the only one in your corp, and you can't get your own corp hangar as all are already used for something?


You got that correct! Not to mention the problem with non director toons or just the pain in grant accesses and roles. It seems like it would be a really easy feature to add.



Having spoken to CCP devs about this topic, it's really not simple, and it won't be getting added any time soon I am afraid.

I can't quote it, as apparently thats banworthy :)
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#19 - 2015-11-04 22:58:05 UTC
If you and your alts are in the same player corporation get a secure station container in a corp hanger and give all the alts rights to access that container.

If you are not all in the same corp, anchor a giant secure container somewhere in space and use it to share stuff.

If your alts are on different accounts, you can station trade

If they are on the same account, use an item exchange contract.

There are many ways to solve the problem.
Styphon the Black
Forced Euthanasia
#20 - 2015-11-05 15:52:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Styphon the Black
You guys are really complicating something very simple.

All that would need to be added it a "Link Account Page" on the "Account Management" section of the EVE website. You would input the User Name and Passwords of all the accounts you have and hit submit. Just have an "Add Account" button and it gives you two new fields for each additional account. You would then verify this by doing the same thing in with the other accounts. That is how verification of who owns what accounts (and toons associated with those accounts).

Then in game now every linked toon can see and has access to take from and put item in every other linked toons hanger. Problem solved.

This would be very easy to do.

No API or other weird abusive methods. You could not exploit this because you would have to have the account user name and password. Which means if you already had someone else's user name and password you could exploit them regardless of this ability.
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