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Next on the chopping block, bumping?

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-11-02 17:58:47 UTC
Hello spacefriends,

As many of you know I am the last person to instigate drama or try to gin up delicious meta for others to enjoy out of sheer boredom, but today I come to you with raised eyebrow and clenched sphincter, after listening very carefully to the latest episode of the Jeffraider show (ep. 9)

During the flowing Q&A around capital changes coming out of EvE Vegas, Fozzie commented about how they are looking at bumping mechanics as it relates to capitals. He then also went on to mention they were also looking at bumping mechanics as they relate to freighters.

Now I know there is a (stickied) post already affirming CCP's validating bumping as permissable gameplay, but as hyperdunking has shown us CCP can (and will) change their position on a given mechanic on a dime.

tldr;
If your current career involves bumping mechanics in any way, you may want to let your voices be heard now, rather than later.

F

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Saskia Laru
Saskia Laru Trading Corporation
#2 - 2015-11-02 18:05:06 UTC
Well if that does come to pass, carebears had best dock up their fat whales cause the finally days will be nothing short of gruesome.
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-11-02 18:07:32 UTC
Another Quote of CCP:
Nothing is unthinkable.


As i understood bumping will get some rework.
Nothing bad with that.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-11-02 18:33:00 UTC
The concept of reworking bumping mechanics... Maybe I'm ok with it? It would be nice not to fly right through ships anymore for instance.

Without bumping we'd have to go back to the days of alpha nados for killing freighters.

"Just one more nerf, that's what Eve needs. Just one more..."

Eve is getting safer and safer, and subscription numbers aren't really going up are they?

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-11-02 18:46:51 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
The concept of reworking bumping mechanics... Maybe I'm ok with it? It would be nice not to fly right through ships anymore for instance.

Without bumping we'd have to go back to the days of alpha nados for killing freighters.

"Just one more nerf, that's what Eve needs. Just one more..."

Eve is getting safer and safer, and subscription numbers aren't really going up are they?


Are you sad?
This does not sound like you are OK?
Remember: "Broadcast for reps"!

There are far more, far interesting changes in the next time.
I like those Ideas CCP came up with.

And one post "No 5 is alive" suggests subscriber numbers *are* rising.
I would think most ppl will not miss bumping that is replaced by better mechanics.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Black Pedro
Mine.
#6 - 2015-11-02 18:55:08 UTC
A rework of bumping is not unthinkable, but I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were a freighter pilot that some golden age of risk-free AFK hauling is around the corner. Freighters are already ridiculously safe in highsec and last time CCP touched them they arguably made them easier to gank. CCP could have nerfed bumping hard years ago by just changing a few stats, or during the 2013 freighter re-work when the slots were added but did not.

Letting some of the other capitals into highsec is also something CCP is very keen on. However, a major obstacle to that is the current CONCORD mechanic which would make those capitals ungankable haulers. Perhaps the other capitals along with a new tackling/ganking mechanic will make it to highsec far down the road, or one can dream, along with the complete revamp/replacement of CONCORD.

But honestly, there are lot of things CCP says it wants to do but there are obstacles that it does not seem to be able to solve or implement around. I think bumping will be with us for a long time yet.

The 8 Golden Rules of Eve

Why Do They Gank?
Yong Shin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-11-02 19:17:30 UTC
Don't worry. Even if this does happen, it's as far away as the day Rorquals become viable ships to fly.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#8 - 2015-11-02 19:28:11 UTC
Bumping sucks, but it serves important purposes.
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-11-02 19:46:57 UTC
Oh, yippee! I totally didn't want to rescue freighters from bump tackle for a nominal fee. I didn't want that player generated content anyway.

/s

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#10 - 2015-11-02 19:56:14 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Hello spacefriends,

As many of you know I am the last person to instigate drama or try to gin up delicious meta for others to enjoy out of sheer boredom, but today I come to you with raised eyebrow and clenched sphincter, after listening very carefully to the latest episode of the Jeffraider show (ep. 9)

During the flowing Q&A around capital changes coming out of EvE Vegas, Fozzie commented about how they are looking at bumping mechanics as it relates to capitals. He then also went on to mention they were also looking at bumping mechanics as they relate to freighters.

Now I know there is a (stickied) post already affirming CCP's validating bumping as permissable gameplay, but as hyperdunking has shown us CCP can (and will) change their position on a given mechanic on a dime.

tldr;
If your current career involves bumping mechanics in any way, you may want to let your voices be heard now, rather than later.

F

---

This is another fine post brought to you by http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca. Evedarklord.blogspot.ca, going where others fear to go.





As I have warned many many times over the years: when a mechanic that lacks consequence is abused, something is going to change. It does not matter how anybody feels about it at that point when, for example, you can bump a ship for an unlimited time or endlessly camp a system fully cloaked up.

Sure, "legitimate play" applies, but I can also lawyer up to the EULA too (which is why CCP is non-specific for edge cases. Gotta keep the ban hammer strong).


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-11-02 21:16:17 UTC
Bumping just doesn't look or "feel" right.
Shooting ships like playing bowling.
Ball hits Pins, Pins fall away...

Anyway.
As always the best solution for the game, is the solution which satifies wether the bumper nor the bumpee but adds content.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Globby
Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished
Gimme Da Loot
#12 - 2015-11-02 21:21:30 UTC
i'm gay
Siegfried Cohenberg
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling
Freighter Friends
#13 - 2015-11-02 21:21:52 UTC
CCP will never remove freighter bumping from the game. There needs to be a certain level of risk when flying a freighter.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#14 - 2015-11-02 21:26:04 UTC
CCP is hellbent on making highsec safe so eventually they will just remove highsec ganking altogether.

They are removing all risks and enforcing safety. They are doing it slowly to not make all the content creation playerbase quit at the same time but the results will be the same.

Once highsec which hosts 70% of playerbase holds no risks anymore players will get bored because the PVE in this game is boring as hell and there will be no chaos left to provide uncertainties.

It doesn't matter what we say, they listen to paying playerbase and paying playerbase don't know what they want.

Keep chugging those blue pills and live in ignorance.

EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
BirdStrike
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-11-02 21:27:09 UTC
Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:
CCP will never remove freighter bumping from the game. There needs to be a certain level of risk when flying a freighter.


"CCP will never...."

All the words after this opening statement are invalid regardless of what they may be.
Siegfried Cohenberg
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling
Freighter Friends
#16 - 2015-11-02 21:27:55 UTC
BirdStrike wrote:
Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:
CCP will never remove freighter bumping from the game. There needs to be a certain level of risk when flying a freighter.


"CCP will never...."

All the words after this opening statement are invalid regardless of what they may be.




It is unlikely that CCP will remove freighter bumping from the game. There needs to be a certain level of risk when flying a freighter.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#17 - 2015-11-02 22:46:36 UTC
Bumping is essential as the only realistic counter to the insane EHP of freighters.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Aoife Fraoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-11-03 02:31:21 UTC
Wonder how far they are going to go. Because bumping is not just for freighters, and has a real use in PVP against opponents who can shoot back and can often be the only thing keeping them on the field when they make an error or fall into a trap.
Alex Pendaho
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-11-03 02:39:51 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Bumping is essential as the only realistic counter to the insane EHP of freighters.


And it's totally "realistic" that smashing into another ship 200 times doesn't do hull dmg to you.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#20 - 2015-11-03 02:41:03 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Bumping is essential as the only realistic counter to the insane EHP of freighters.


And nerfing bumping is the only realistic counter to the whining of whinebears (for 10 seconds until they whine about the next thing).

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
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