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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#41 - 2015-11-03 07:52:41 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Saede Riordan wrote:
So edgy. Capsuleers are filth, woo. Scary scary. Why, I'm practically quaking in my filth at the mere mention of it. Do you ever have anything not completely emo to add?

Sometimes it looks like some capsuleers see what they want to read and not what was written. Clonning process does not prevent it's products from being dumb still.


We get it, you don't like capsuleers, capsuleer.

We all know your 'empty puppet condemned to a life of stolen memories.' We all know you're not so secretly a puppet for some sort of nanogoo. What is the point of coming into a thread where people are trying to enjoy themselves and talk about their families just to tell them they're terrible and their families should be ashamed of them

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It may be better for 'em to forget that they ever had such a miserable offspring. There's really nothing to be proud of, but a lot to shame.


"you're miserable, your parents should forget they ever had you. Shame on you for existing."

Do you get off on it or something?

If your goal is to come off as somehow above all of the rabble then you're doing a rather terrible job, and your message will fall of deaf ears. Oh and if someone finds his corpse let me know, I'd like to poke it with a stick.

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Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#42 - 2015-11-03 08:05:57 UTC
Saede Riordan wrote:
We get it, you don't like capsuleers, capsuleer.

You are hopeless. Didn't read the rest.

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2015-11-03 08:17:56 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Saede Riordan wrote:
We get it, you don't like capsuleers, capsuleer.

You are hopeless. Didn't read the rest.


So you can avoid the inconvenient truth.

Now back to the regularly scheduled edgy show.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#44 - 2015-11-03 08:32:56 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
So you can avoid the inconvenient truth.

Another one who can barely read but makes a lot of guesswork instead.

If you or Ms. Riordan may take a look back, then you will see, that we told nothing 'bout all capsuleers or 'bout being one of 'em. It was all 'bout Saint-Clair, whos deeds we know well.

But you choosed to rush ahead with your prejudices like a couple of unguided rockets to reveal our hatered to capsuleers. And never turn back. Such a good weapon you are. Disposable still.

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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#45 - 2015-11-03 08:33:03 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Saede Riordan wrote:
We get it, you don't like capsuleers, capsuleer.

You are hopeless. Didn't read the rest.


So you can avoid the inconvenient truth.

Now back to the regularly scheduled edgy show.

So, Arkoth and Diana Kim. I'm shipping them, OTP is now official. Enjoy, lady's and gentlemen.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#46 - 2015-11-03 08:37:42 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
joined the herd

Sounds like an epidemic of stupidity.

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2015-11-03 08:38:13 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
So you can avoid the inconvenient truth.

Another one who can barely read but makes a lot of guesswork instead.

If you or Ms. Riordan may take a look back, then you will see, that we told nothing 'bout all capsuleers or 'bout being one of 'em. It was all 'bout Saint-Clair, whos deeds we know well.

But you choosed to rush ahead with your prejudices like a couple of unguided rockets to reveal our hatered to capsuleers. And never turn back. Such a good weapon you are. Disposable still.


And this gives you a very good reason to guilt-trip another capsuleer.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#48 - 2015-11-03 08:40:49 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
joined the herd

Sounds like an epidemic of stupidity.

You just can't handle our awesomeness, deal with it *****. Cool

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Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#49 - 2015-11-03 08:45:55 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
You just can't handle our awesomeness, deal with it *****. Cool

It's ignorance, but you may call it whatever you like to. Mr. Egivand discovered already that we don't care about anything.

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2015-11-03 08:58:38 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
You just can't handle our awesomeness, deal with it *****. Cool

It's ignorance, but you may call it whatever you like to. Mr. Egivand discovered already that we don't care about anything.


And yet you still replied to us.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#51 - 2015-11-03 09:28:18 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:
It's ignorance, but you may call it whatever you like to. Mr. Egivand discovered already that we don't care about anything.


And yet you still replied to us.

We were sure that [RMS] don't teach it's students what irony is.

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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2015-11-03 10:07:52 UTC
Like I'd tell you lot anything about my family! Granted a couple of them would deserve it but still...family is family.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2015-11-03 11:11:13 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:
It's ignorance, but you may call it whatever you like to. Mr. Egivand discovered already that we don't care about anything.


And yet you still replied to us.

We were sure that [RMS] don't teach it's students what irony is.


So you are telling me that you actually care very much?

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#54 - 2015-11-03 13:52:41 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Saede Riordan wrote:
We get it, you don't like capsuleers, capsuleer.

You are hopeless. Didn't read the rest.


So you can avoid the inconvenient truth.

Now back to the regularly scheduled edgy show.

Egivand talking about "inconvenient truth"?
Oh, my sides, that hypocrite is really funny.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

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Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#55 - 2015-11-03 14:01:15 UTC
Never change, IGN, never change.

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#56 - 2015-11-03 14:59:16 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Dominique Saint-Clair wrote:

It may be better for 'em to forget that they ever had such a miserable offspring. There's really nothing to be proud of, but a lot to shame.



Arkoth 24 wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
It could be something really similar to Saint-Clair's circumstances.

Can you claim to know her circumstances well enough to conclude that her family had a hard time dealing with an offspring who is now a capsuleer and may or may not have lost the original flesh-and-blood body?

There is nothing inherently shameful about having a capsuleer in the family. It all depends on how one views it.

You missed the point. As usual.

There's nothing about being a capsuleer or capsuleer's deeds. It's about being Saint-Clair and her deeds only. Lie, treachery, cowardice, self-addiction, sanctimoniousness. Pathetic filth that even we find disgusting.


So, all else aside, it sounds like you have something against Saint-Cair personally, Mr. Arkoth.

If you want us to take your remarks seriously, maybe you could elaborate?
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#57 - 2015-11-03 16:20:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkoth 24
Aria Jenneth wrote:
So, all else aside, it sounds like you have something against Saint-Cair personally, Mr. Arkoth.

It took surprisely long for someone to get it.

Aria Jenneth wrote:
If you want us to take your remarks seriously, maybe you could elaborate?

There is nothing what we want from you. But Nanoblack made us to fight lies and liars.

Saint-Clair is a self-proclaimed "Savior of the New Eden", Guardian of the Light, Abbess of the Cathedral. We leave it up to you to find out from what New Eden should be saved, what those Guardians supposed to keep and where is that Cathedral may exist outside Saint-Clair's imagination.

Les Gardiens corporation declared that it works to help new capsuleers adaptation, to support culture, to bring peace. Their Memorandum says that it's strongly forbidden for every "guardian" to be the first to initiate combat with another capsuleer.

Lie. In every single word.

While Les Gardiens pretends to be charitable organization on public, their actions got nothing with "charity". Saint-Clair is responsible for a war declaration, an ignoring her own Memorandum, a betrayal of her allies, a flight from her own war, a slaughter of her corp-mates. In 117-03-25 that deceitful creature found it's miserable death, but new Saint-Clair choosed to hide that fact and say that there was no war-dec at all, no violation of her own rules, and previous Saint-Clair died by heart attack, what was officialy declared on Les Gardiens public resourses.

We can only hope that you enjoyed that little story full of humanity just as we did.

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#58 - 2015-11-03 19:17:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Arkoth 24 wrote:
There is nothing what we want from you. But Nanoblack made us to fight lies and liars.

Saint-Clair is a self-proclaimed "Savior of the New Eden", Guardian of the Light, Abbess of the Cathedral. We leave it up to you to find out from what New Eden should be saved, what those Guardians supposed to keep and where is that Cathedral may exist outside Saint-Clair's imagination.

Les Gardiens corporation declared that it works to help new capsuleers adaptation, to support culture, to bring peace. Their Memorandum says that it's strongly forbidden for every "guardian" to be the first to initiate combat with another capsuleer.

Lie. In every single word.

While Les Gardiens pretends to be charitable organization on public, their actions got nothing with "charity". Saint-Clair is responsible for a war declaration, an ignoring her own Memorandum, a betrayal of her allies, a flight from her own war, a slaughter of her corp-mates. In 117-03-25 that deceitful creature found it's miserable death, but new Saint-Clair choosed to hide that fact and say that there was no war-dec at all, no violation of her own rules, and previous Saint-Clair died by heart attack, what was officialy declared on Les Gardiens public resourses.

We can only hope that you enjoyed that little story full of humanity just as we did.

Fighting lies and liars ...

It's an admirable goal, Mr. Arkoth, but it seems bound to be deeply frustrating, especially if what you are really fighting is just people who disagree with your own point of view.

For example: I could say, "I have no family."

From your stated point of view, this is true, because I'm a different person from the woman who had that family. It's also at least partially true from mine, as I have no memory of such people and don't see myself as especially attached to them. I also have no reason to think they remember me fondly.

Then again, I could say, "I have a family."

There are people who are genetically related to my clone, and who would recognize the personality imprint of my infomorph. They were responsible for teaching a lot of the knowledge I possess even now, including my religious beliefs. Even if I (or my predecessor) killed one or two of them, depending on how you count, I'm still linked by blood, faith, and perhaps fate.

Alternatively, I also have people who care about me, elsewhere. Whether these are "family," exactly, is a judgment call.

Which of these is true isn't clear-- unless you cling to a particular point of view. But if you do that, you're essentially claiming that your own perspective is the only meaningful one. You're then claiming objective accuracy in a world where perception is subjective from its roots.

A lot of human quarrels arise from roots like this. I wonder whether yours do the same.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#59 - 2015-11-03 19:32:08 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
*Logic go's here*

Don't do this thing. That kind of discussion leads to cracks in the mental state of people like him, then they have to cover it up with logical fallacies and.... well, you've met Kim.

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Nysero Vaenthrak
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2015-11-03 19:37:37 UTC
Oh look at how far off this topic is now from where it was Big smile