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Tojo Johnson
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-11-02 04:06:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Tojo Johnson
I currently have a Dell 24" monitor that's about 8 years old. I have a GTX 770. Want to upgrade my monitor and definitely go bigger. I have been checking out Asus but I'm undecided. Should I go 2K? 4K? Never paid Eve on anything other than my current monitor. Thanks!
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-11-02 04:16:08 UTC
stay at 1k at this moment there is no need to get 2k or 4k unless you have to many money in your pocket.
Tojo Johnson
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-11-02 04:41:43 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
stay at 1k at this moment there is no need to get 2k or 4k unless you have to many money in your pocket.


Don't really have a budget. Willing to upgrade video card if needed too
BLACK-STAR
#4 - 2015-11-02 06:23:36 UTC  |  Edited by: BLACK-STAR
ASUS is good. Make sure you check out the luminosity cd/m2 so it isn't too dark, because sometimes large monitors aren't that bright. Above 250cd/m2 or even 300 is good, iMacs run above 300.

I've just had a monitor replacement for a couple days, this http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-29UM65-P and no complaints so far.

Edit: Your video card is fine, no reason to upgrade over a monitor; however check if you have a HDMI port because monitors nowadays prefer you use HDMI connections.

Edit:
Chuffer wrote:
I use a 27" IPS panel at 1440p fixed window for EVE with 90% UI scaling. Pixel density and screen space is just about right for me in EVE, although I'm seriously tempted by 34" ultrawide monitors atm.
If you're thinking about it, Yes. Absolutely. These cinematic monitors are much helpful than having a dual setup, but I guess you could go overboard.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2015-11-02 06:57:57 UTC
Beware of 4K monitors intended for TV and movies, not gaming.

Many have a HUGE latency (it takes a while to process all the pixels), or only do 4K at 30 Hz. It also must have a connection(s) compatible with the video card: HDMI 2.0, or DisplayPort 1.2 is a better way to go. Some use a dual-link, splitting the display in half.

Also 4K is pretty pointless on small monitors. I wouldn't get one below 45 inches @ 16:9 (40 in. x 22.5 in.) or about the same as four 24 inch monitors. Keep in mind some text is unreadable on small monitors.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-11-02 09:28:33 UTC
get the dell u27 monitor :)

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Chuffer
Testicle of Doom
#7 - 2015-11-02 11:14:21 UTC
I use a 27" IPS panel at 1440p fixed window for EVE with 90% UI scaling. Pixel density and screen space is just about right for me in EVE, although I'm seriously tempted by 34" ultrawide monitors atm.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#8 - 2015-11-02 14:10:35 UTC
ASUS is a very reputable brand. I have a Dell 30" that's been very good. I really like the 2560 x 1600 resolution over the smaller vertical resolution monitors as it give more room for vertical stacking of windows.

Your graphics card doesn't support it, but the Nvidia adaptive Vsync technology gets a lot of good reviews so you might want to buy a monitor that supports it for future-proof.




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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-11-02 15:40:21 UTC
I recommend LG 31MU97 31-Inch 4K
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#10 - 2015-11-02 21:21:56 UTC
ISK IRON BANK wrote:
I recommend LG 31MU97 31-Inch 4K

Do you find a 4K monitor is a big improvement? Do you run into very many incompatibilities? Such as with programs that don't properly handle text scaling to make small print readable?
rofflesausage
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-11-02 21:53:24 UTC
I use a few screens, but the best performance:cost ratio i've recently purchased has to be the Dell u2515h.

I've played Eve on 4k and I don't recommend it. It offered very little over 1440p, apart from killing the frame rate.
BrundleMeth
Black Parrot
Sylvanas Super mercenary
#12 - 2015-11-02 21:57:59 UTC  |  Edited by: BrundleMeth
Well

I have:

Dell U3014 30 Inch
Dell U3011 30 Inch
Dell WFP3007 30 Inch
Dell U2713H
Dell 2405FPW from several years ago. Before they cheaped their 24 Inch to krap. Brand new in Box used 2 months.
Asus 27 Inch.
Dell FP2005 20 Inch.

I have no 4K monitors yet, waiting.

But the Dell U3014 is impeccable as is the U3011 but the U3014 is the newest and what is available now...
rofflesausage
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-11-02 22:40:12 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:


Dell FP2405 from several years ago. Before they cheaped their 24 Inch to krap. Brand new in Box used 2 months.


Assuming that is the 2405FPW, you MUST look at replacing the capacitor in it ASAP. They're dying now at a crazy rate and taking the entire PSU board with them. I just repaired mine (multiple caps, voltage regulators, 2 IC chips, resistors) as I didn't know about the issue and mine blew. Took loads out :(. Cost me ~$40 as a result, and that was just for the parts - I can solder so did that myself. Some of them were difficult to find too.

If you replace just the capacitor, it'll cost you next to nothing.

See this thread for details, it's the same for the 2407/2405 screens: http://badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14882

It's a great screen and totally worth doing the preemptive maintenance on to save it.
BrundleMeth
Black Parrot
Sylvanas Super mercenary
#14 - 2015-11-02 23:21:02 UTC
rofflesausage wrote:
BrundleMeth wrote:


Dell FP2405 from several years ago. Before they cheaped their 24 Inch to krap. Brand new in Box used 2 months.


Assuming that is the 2405FPW, you MUST look at replacing the capacitor in it ASAP. They're dying now at a crazy rate and taking the entire PSU board with them. I just repaired mine (multiple caps, voltage regulators, 2 IC chips, resistors) as I didn't know about the issue and mine blew. Took loads out :(. Cost me ~$40 as a result, and that was just for the parts - I can solder so did that myself. Some of them were difficult to find too.

If you replace just the capacitor, it'll cost you next to nothing.

See this thread for details, it's the same for the 2407/2405 screens: http://badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14882

It's a great screen and totally worth doing the preemptive maintenance on to save it.

Yes, 2405FPW... that's it...

But as I say, it had only 2 months of use, probably less. So if the part goes bad anyway while sitting in a box... If not, I should be OK if I ever pull it out again...
Tojo Johnson
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-11-02 23:40:07 UTC
Thanks everyone! This gives me a lot to work with. I doubt I will go 4K but I still have some more research to do before getting my early Christmas present
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-11-03 03:13:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
27" is getting to be the sweet spot pricewise.

4K is probably unnecessary at 27" but it may be worth going up to a 2550 res 27" instead of 1920.

The new super-wide format seem good but is too short vertically on anything under a 32" .

IPS used to be the tech of choice as IPS monitors were usually the top of the line offerings and overall better, but these days its not so clear so do not assume just because the spec says IPS its automatically a good unit.

Dell used to be good but have been problematical the last few years. I have a friend with a 27" Dell IPS 2550 and the left half of the screen is fine and the right half regularly lose one color.
Tojo Johnson
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-12-14 17:41:38 UTC
Alright I am nearing a final decision on the monitor upgrade. Had a few more questions. My prime path right now is to get a Dell U3014 30". I am also considering getting a GTX 980 Ti. Video card overkill for Eve? Probably. But I will be running 4 clients at once with all the video settings to the max so I am thinking I will need to beef up from my current GTX 770. My 770 with 1K monitor can handle 3 clients all at max settings and I get around 50 fps. When I goto 4 clients on max, it slows to about 30-35 fps.

I have never used 2K before or even see anything in 2K. Does it make a big difference for playing Eve? Are there any short comings vs 1K?
Memphis Baas
#18 - 2015-12-14 20:13:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
EVE has really small fonts.

Also, icons and fonts get blurry if you aren't running the monitor's default resolution.

So if you don't have excellent vision, it doesn't make much sense to buy a bigger screen (28, 30 inches would make everything appear bigger), only to make all the writing extremely tiny by going to 2k or 4k resolution.

IMO, 2k and 4k resolutions are for 40, 60 inch TV's. All the menus and text will look minuscule on a 30 inch at 4k, probably even at 2k.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#19 - 2015-12-14 21:36:04 UTC
This article has a graph showing where the benefit of a resolution should be visible depending on view distance and screen size. http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/a-theory-why-the-new-apple-tv-will-ship-without-4k-uhd

1080 on a 23" screen just doesn't look good to me anymore. I'll probably never buy a 1080 monitor again. freaking phones have 1080. Although at the same time 4k might be a bit overkill. 1440 sounds interesting. by the time I get around to buying something I might even be able to afford a dank video card and 4k might be cheap.

what I'd love would be a big ass monitor in 4k and then have my 3 accounts, and a browser window at 1080 in the 4 quadrants of the monitor

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Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#20 - 2015-12-14 22:54:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Shiloh Templeton
Tojo Johnson wrote:
Alright I am nearing a final decision on the monitor upgrade. Had a few more questions. My prime path right now is to get a Dell U3014 30". I am also considering getting a GTX 980 Ti.

I have never used 2K before or even see anything in 2K. Does it make a big difference for playing Eve? Are there any short comings vs 1K?

I've had a Dell 3014 for over a year and it's been a great monitor. I've also had a GTX titan since they first came out and it's been flawless for multi-boxing. I don't think you can have overkill on a video card for a 30" monitor.
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