Player Features and Ideas Discussion

TLDr skills take too long to train, buying SP will only help 5+month old players who can afford the cost and higher attribute (training times) are good. Oh and increase time it takes to get into destroyers/cruisers example to use a cruiser you must have frig lvl5 and destroyer lvl 5 or something to that effect

New players seem to think the bigger the ship the better they will be at piloting but without the core skills (and core piloting skills) the ship is useless with that in mind….

SP if sold will cost roughly 250mill (taken the lowest estimate) from what I’ve been told, watching Johnnypew videos you can see a new player isn’t going to make 250mill quickly.

As a knida of new player what stops me from playing is waiting on a skill being trained, with the new crimson harvest skills are training faster and I’ve been playing more instead of going ok that’ll be done in 10 days ill play then. I now go OK it’ll be done in 5 days I’ll go do some ratting and pvp and just as I get board of doing that for a week my power grid has been updated and I can fly a different fit/ship testing that out for the next 3/5 days and train something new. All this event does is highlight that skills take too long to train.

Personally I’d like to set everyone to 40/50 attributes in each one (as well as getting rid of them so you don’t see them sort of thing) and increase the time it takes to fly the next big ship. This will encourage people to get better skills in the lower ships and fly the different variations of said ship e.g. not just an AF but fly a SB or a ceptor in each race, instead of going oh I can fly a battle cruiser in 2 days that will kick everyone’s ass.

Now I prepare myself for the usual insults….

As a wise eve player once told me, it will always take longer for you to learn how to fly a ship properly in real life than it will be for your in game character to learn to how to fly the ship. A new player with full skills in a ship is still going to get roflstomped by a more experienced player, so don't worry about in-game character training time.

I had played Eve for about 6 months before my first PvP experience. I had full support skills and a tech 2 fitted ship. I still got blapped. In fact I panicked so hard I barely even fired back.

haha sounds like my first pvp fight.

the simple matter is though, if a new player doesn't find enjoyment in the first couple of weeks they wont play again (from my experience at a new game if i don't enjoy it after then chances are ill never play it again) and the amount of time it takes to learn skills is a huge factor in this regards.

completely agree, it just takes too long, thats what the problem is.

I hate to be the bringer of bad news but the time it takes is more than appropiate. It feel long to train Engineering to level 5?

GOOD. For every level you train you will feel a difference in performance so you will associate the skill que as something positive and important.

Believe me when I tell you I was sitting in the very same spot a noob sits in right now and CCP did not reimburse me for screwing me over three times with skillpoints but I will make them pay - I do not forget and I do not forgive.

Long timespans is what makes EVE big. At current rates you need around 17 or 18 years to train all titans and outpost contruction to level 5.

You may notice that EVE is not for the impatient. There are always new things to come, well as long as CCP stops to caving to miners and tears.

How much money did it cost you to learn swimming or writing or reading or driving a car?